Trite sayings that people think are profound.

Oriphiel · 12-02-2018, 01:50 AM

Aw, you got trolled by Frownland at 2:00 in the morning. That means you're finally a true member.

windsock · 12-02-2018, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Aw, you got trolled by Frownland at 2:00 in the morning. That means you're finally a true member.

Legitimately though I'm glad for the discourse. It's piqued my interest in philosophical theory for the first time in awhile and as a result am considering doing some more reading into these concepts. However many layers of "trolling" Frown is supposedly on, he's fun to debate.

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-02-2018, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by windsock

I've also learned that Frown would probably ban himself before he would ever concede a point to another person in an argument. Eventually it'll boil down to his opponent not being able to understand concepts whatsoever despite providing and clearly outlining the meaning of peer-reviewed evidence.

Lol yeah, now that I think about it, I've never seen him back down on anything.

Lucem Ferre · 12-02-2018, 02:49 AM

"They want me to apologize for being a monster, but nobody apologizes for making me this way."

Hate this one.

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-02-2018, 02:53 AM

While it's true that the way you are has a lot to do with how you grew up, and while it's true that one should probably often show some understanding for people who are under pressure, it is also the case that people use "this is just who I am" as an excuse to not even try to improve. And it annoys me to no end. There are people close to me who I'd like to confront about this, but I'm too much of a non-confrontational chicken to ever do that.

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-02-2018, 03:04 AM

Just adding this bit of info that I found. Gonna have to check it out a bit closer to see if his way of laying this out fits with accepted understandings of these concepts:

Existentialism is the belief that through a combination of awareness, free will, and personal responsibility, one can construct their own meaning within a world that intrinsically has none of its own.
Nihilism is the belief that not only is there no intrinsic meaning in the universe, but that it’s pointless to try to construct our own as a substitute.
Absurdism is the belief that a search for meaning is inherently in conflict with the actual lack of meaning, but that one should both accept this and simultaneously rebel against it by embracing what life has to offer.

https://danielmiessler.com/blog/diff...ism-absurdism/

Without digging deeper, I'd say that this aligns well with how I've percieved things to have been laid out the various places in which I've encountered ideas of nihilism, existentialism and absurdism in writings, videos, etc. But I'm casually interested in these things and not a philosopher at heart.

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-02-2018, 07:57 AM

Which is different from existentialism and nihilism how in exact terms?

That's what would be interesting to plot into that model above.

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-02-2018, 08:05 AM

Hmm... not a very useful term then?

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-02-2018, 08:13 AM

I can see that. I'd probably just refer to myself as an existentialist though.

Oriphiel · 12-02-2018, 08:50 AM

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12-02-2018, 03:04 AM	#136 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	Just adding this bit of info that I found. Gonna have to check it out a bit closer to see if his way of laying this out fits with accepted understandings of these concepts: Existentialism is the belief that through a combination of awareness, free will, and personal responsibility, one can construct their own meaning within a world that intrinsically has none of its own. Nihilism is the belief that not only is there no intrinsic meaning in the universe, but that it’s pointless to try to construct our own as a substitute. Absurdism is the belief that a search for meaning is inherently in conflict with the actual lack of meaning, but that one should both accept this and simultaneously rebel against it by embracing what life has to offer. https://danielmiessler.com/blog/diff...ism-absurdism/ Without digging deeper, I'd say that this aligns well with how I've percieved things to have been laid out the various places in which I've encountered ideas of nihilism, existentialism and absurdism in writings, videos, etc. But I'm casually interested in these things and not a philosopher at heart. Last edited by MicShazam; 12-02-2018 at 03:10 AM.

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12-02-2018, 02:53 AM	#135 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	While it's true that the way you are has a lot to do with how you grew up, and while it's true that one should probably often show some understanding for people who are under pressure, it is also the case that people use "this is just who I am" as an excuse to not even try to improve. And it annoys me to no end. There are people close to me who I'd like to confront about this, but I'm too much of a non-confrontational chicken to ever do that.

12-02-2018, 07:57 AM	#137 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	Which is different from existentialism and nihilism how in exact terms? That's what would be interesting to plot into that model above.

12-02-2018, 08:05 AM	#138 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	Hmm... not a very useful term then?

12-02-2018, 08:13 AM	#139 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	I can see that. I'd probably just refer to myself as an existentialist though.