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Old 04-20-2012, 09:54 PM   #231 (permalink)
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Hyperbolic Rubato is hyperbolic, but I do agree with the fundamental point of your post. (edit) Which seems to be, people with legitimate, actually existing medical problems should seek treatment of those problems.



Sorry, you're claiming BMI is useless because it's not accurate for a minority of the population?

Anyways... this next bit is not really vital to the thread, but I have to call bull****: 300lbs, at 6'1", and you're not overweight? Really? You'd have to be sporting Arnold Schwarzenegger, in competition, levels of muscle.
Arnold was around 230 or so apparently for his competitions...... sooooo I'm gonna have to agree with you.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:11 PM   #232 (permalink)
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I think it's interesting that not much has been said in regards to societal pressures put onto men. I mean, clearly a lot more of the attention in the media is directed toward women - even this thread was made to discuss women's bodies - but I don't like that the focus is so one-sided.

Obviously men also feel pressure to have the "perfect body," which in a lot of cases means a muscular one. I just think it's important to note that men also suffer from eating disorders, and are generally more inclined to use steroids or develop unhealthy preoccupations with weight lifting to achieve a media-idealized, muscular body.

I'm not sure that this observation is necessary to bring up at this point, but it's been on my mind.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:10 AM   #233 (permalink)
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WWWP, the film "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" deals with that issue to an extent. The film is quite rambling, as it's somewhat autobiographical, but it is interesting. It's not a subject you hear discussed much:

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Old 04-21-2012, 12:13 AM   #234 (permalink)
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And size is also only one of the many factors of body image where people feel pressured to look a certain way. Ethnicity is probably one of the huge ones I can think of... I work in a very cultural diverse area and lots of young girls layer their face with make-up to try and make themselves look "whiter." It is very sad.
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:28 AM   #235 (permalink)
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And size is also only one of the many factors of body image where people feel pressured to look a certain way. Ethnicity is probably one of the huge ones I can think of... I work in a very cultural diverse area and lots of young girls layer their face with make-up to try and make themselves look "whiter." It is very sad.
yeah, that's true here - a lot of facial cleansers and body lotions have "whitening" formula

and a lot of Chinese here dye their hair blonde
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Old 04-21-2012, 02:43 AM   #236 (permalink)
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And size is also only one of the many factors of body image where people feel pressured to look a certain way. Ethnicity is probably one of the huge ones I can think of... I work in a very cultural diverse area and lots of young girls layer their face with make-up to try and make themselves look "whiter." It is very sad.
What about when people try to make themselves darker?


Ugh, what's so sad about this is the way class plays into it. Just by looking at this photo, you can immediately tell some of them are poor.


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You can tell in this photo the pale guy is really embarrassed he couldn't afford bronzer
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Old 04-21-2012, 03:10 AM   #237 (permalink)
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Heh, I actually saw an episode of Jessica Simpson's reality TV show about beauty (just that one episode I swear ) and one of the people on the show was a thai woman who had permanently damaged her skin from her bleaching it too often.

Ehf, feel a bit silly for promoting a show by godsdarned Simpson who thought that tunas were chickens, but that segment is relevant to the thread and was interesting to me as I wasn't aware of such pressures on women in Thailand. I guess it's common in more of Asia as well.

The part comes in at around 8:50 here and continues in the next part under.





To WWWP, I feel there's definetly a lot more pressure on guys to be beefy and good looking these days than there was before. I believe the average man is a little different from the average women when it comes to mentality and that we are less affected by pressures to look a certain way overall, but the pressure is definitely there.
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:16 AM   #238 (permalink)
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Hyperbolic Rubato is hyperbolic, but I do agree with the fundamental point of your post. (edit) Which seems to be, people with legitimate, actually existing medical problems should seek treatment of those problems.
I'm a fairly simple chap, I make no apologies for making a fairly simple point.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:16 AM   #239 (permalink)
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You're a hypocrite. You said this to NSW and then you just posted "fat" people who "don't hold their size well" or whatever to answer to Janszoon. So what, because you know NSW, she holds her size well and she's more than that? Or because you don't know these people, they're not more than that and you're allowed to exploit them?

Why did you even start this thread. I'm looking to your comments to see the reason and you're contradicting yourself and being judgmental. EXCEPT TO NSW, OH NO GOD FORBID YOU'RE MEAN TO SOMEONE YOU KNOW. Give me a break.



To NSW, this has nothing to do with you specifically, just hypocritical statements. I DO think you're pretty and I don't care about your weight, but I'm not a hypocrite, and I'll call them out as I see them.


I'm sorry.

I just got away with the fairies and did not think it through. I should have left the topic alone and stop glorifying it. To me it doesn't matter whether a person holds their size well, it's the person inside that counts. I know it sounds cheesy but some of the comments in here like Pedestrian's story really touched me and I have just as much respect for her before and after telling it.

You might think I'm contradicting myself and creating 'fat' threads because I'm obsessed with my weight and it's all based on my own insecurities about my weight/looks. I didn't make this thread to try and make myself better, I genuinely just thought of the topic and impulsively posted a thread. That is my weakness. I'm not anywhere close to perfect - I've got rolls and white skin and drawn on eyebrows which people like to focus on. I've also got an addiction, I've been depressed in the past and acted out as a teenager. My 20's were hard to manage in that state. Now thanks to a surgery combating my chronic pain associated with Endometriosis and cysts I can kick away the heavy drugs and become normal and healthy again.

I did need to be told this by a friend, thanks for being honest and calling me out you're a real neat woman Awwsugar. I am promising everyone that I will start using my head and stop making pointless/fire starting/controversial threads.
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Old 04-22-2012, 04:07 AM   #240 (permalink)
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Nothing wrong with a bit of padding, certainly prefer it to some skin draped over a skeleton.

However for myself a larger lady is harder to find attractive (in my eyes) because it triggers default thoughts in the back of my mind that they're lazy. I dont really think of there being a problem with no self control when eating because even an over eater can still do some laps and burn it off, if they're not lazy.

So big typically suggests laziness somewhere along the line to me, and I don't want that. If my girlfriend was big and lazy who would mow the lawns?
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