pastor of muppets

or stale, boring and senile.... but anyway i think that old people (especially those in the war, but not only) arent given the total respect they deserve in society and this partly comes down to, as others have said, the media and other influences.... i think the main reason though is that the old and the young simply do not understand each other... the old dont understand why the young are throwing their lives away or piercing themselves or whatever becuase "that never happened when they were young". also, the youth cant understand why the old people have a problem with their piercings etc.. and just shunt all old people as senile boring etc.. maybe if each of them were to learn about what it is like to be the other in todays society then they would have more respect.... i think the best we can hope for is a place where people start old and grow young because then people would have wisdom and youth.. another old saying " if only youth had wisdom, if only age had ability"... or something along those lines....