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Great thread!

I was wondering what people think of IDM music that isn't Aphex Twin. Seems a lot of people sort of relate the two together, but never go into discovering anything beyond him, or your standard stuff that most people relate to the genre.

Also, would you consider Venetian Snares to be in the IDM category, even though it's technically Breakcore?

That's been a point of debate about IDM. Personally, it just sticks with me as a name that sort of encompasses experimental electronic music, regardless of its actual relevance, simply because it has been used so much for so long.
But as a general background, I've always looked at it as a different approach to "dance" music, where ordinary "dance" music relies on no more thought than being able to feel the rhythm and move to it, whereas "Intelligent" dance music is more exploratory and thinking, rather than rote driven movement.

As for your other point, never knew the reason behind "alternative", to be honest.

Yeah, I'd also like to know what IDM is. Aphex Twin just sounds like "electronic music" to me. Is it the break beats? Is Hrvatski IDM?

I think alternative rock is just an alternative to cock rock.

I don't think I'd really consider Venetian Snares IDM, but if you want some good IDM I'd say look not further that Kid 606.

Yea, being that VS is technically breakcore, I'd say the IDM tag that usually comes with VS is because of the way people use IDM as a relation to "wonkier" (for lack of a better term) styles of electronic.

Honestly, it could be argued that the same effect is at work when people term electronic music as "Techno", although with perhaps slightly less ignorance driving the tendency.

Freebase, tell me about my favorite IDM guy, "Son of the Electric Ghost". Also known as Bil Bless.

I'm not too knowledgeable about Alternative or its roots. I always sorta related it to Grunge, and most of the bands that came out in the mainstream during the '90s, as that's around the time I really had more radio influence, having lived in a pretty restrictively religious family.

Why don't you tell me about him?
I've only heard one or two of his EPs, years ago. I don't own any, either. :(

True dat yo. But I'm telling you: check out Kid 606. Kill Sound Before Sound Kills You is a great album.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...oundbefore.jpg

I know the name, but I can't say if I've heard him or not. Checking now.

Just by searching him on Youtube and selecting the first result, Illness sounds very very familiar. Not sure if that song is from that album, but if so, this is definitely before my time of IDM exploration.

I like.

I second this, fantastic album.

I refuse to let such a relevant thread fade away.

I've a mind to sticky the sh*t out of this.

Off Topic discussions... but isn't that what this entire subforum is for?

VU were probably the first to purposely choose weird topics and create weird music

but i think it already started way before then with Link Wray, who could technically be the first punk/metal act - "Rumble" would cause parents to shit in their pants

off topic to the off topic or alternative to the alternative

IDM? You mean Like Autechtre, Aphex Twin, µ-Ziq, and Squarepusher? Those are all of the heavyweights in the "genre" even though they all sound completely different. I thought IDM was simply a way to pigeonhole electronic artists that can't be labeled, but who knows.

(sorry, too lazy to quote posts)

It's a term that loosely brackets the post-techno artists that emerged in the early 90s, but I wouldn't say there's a uniform sound, as usual it's just something that makes a music journalist's job easier.

Which, turns out it does the opposite since we're all sitting here arguing over it

i don't think any of those were as seminal as VU, besides Zappa