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Old 12-13-2011, 12:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Maybe we were at different stages in our lives when that show came out, but in my experience, it enabled morons to be morons.

5 guys sitting around doing that stupid Butthead laugh, and talking like Bevis. I have PTSD from listening to people imitate that show.
That is fair however just because people took it a certain way doesn't necessarily mean the show was dumb. Haha the laugh gets me ever time. Sometimes I die from laughing. One time they did a review of Jon spencers blues explosions dang! god I couldn't believe that. That is like one of my favorite songs ever!

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The new Beavis & Butthead isn't as good, but I think that is partly because there is very little commentary on music videos. I don't know why that is - MTV doesn't want to alienate the artists it works with?
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The new Beavis & Butthead isn't as good, but I think that is partly because there is very little commentary on music videos. I don't know why that is - MTV doesn't want to alienate the artists it works with?
Perhaps because music videos are no longer a culturally relevant form of entertainment.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:47 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Perhaps because music videos are no longer a culturally relevant form of entertainment.
If they were, they wouldn't be bringing back Beavis and Butthead for desperation nostalgia ratings.

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It didn't enable morons to be morons. It showed idiotic youth not in a manner of praise but in a similar way it was in Daria. I think B&B was a really smart hilarious show. I absolutely love both. Daria does come out on top though. I can relate to Daria in so many ways I can't help but love that show.
I think Beavis and Butthead was a smarter show than it's given credit for. As for enabling morons to be morons, So does alcohol(and them some), and we've already tried banning that. Not the best results.

Not liking the show is one thing. But complaining just because a few imitators miss the point isn't really the show's fault. More the imitators.
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If they were, they wouldn't be bringing back Beavis and Butthead for desperation nostalgia ratings.
What makes you think that was the reason for bringing it back? It ran from 1993 until 1997. During this time I went from age 10 to 14. I'm slightly younger than the intended demographic, but too many kids in all the classes I was in were watching it.

I don't know anyone now that still watches MTV, or would be willing to be lured back by its reincarnation. Admittedly, since I'm not forced to associate with the people who watched it I probably don't. But I'd love to find someone who liked that show, stopped watch MTV, and started again because of that show alone.
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Well, I know people who started watching it again and claim it's still 'just as good'. Luckily, only by distant association.
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I think Beavis and Butthead was a smarter show than it's given credit for. As for enabling morons to be morons, So does alcohol(and them some), and we've already tried banning that. Not the best results.


Not liking the show is one thing. But complaining just because a few imitators miss the point isn't really the show's fault. More the imitators.

This is largely what I meant, thanks SKa
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If they were, they wouldn't be bringing back Beavis and Butthead for desperation nostalgia ratings.



I think Beavis and Butthead was a smarter show than it's given credit for. As for enabling morons to be morons, So does alcohol(and them some), and we've already tried banning that. Not the best results.

Not liking the show is one thing. But complaining just because a few imitators miss the point isn't really the show's fault. More the imitators.
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This is largely what I meant, thanks SKa
What was largely what you meant?

Hold up, he said B&B wasn't given enouhg credit.

Then he said alcohol enables morons to be morons. Those are mutually exlucive. And then says the results of banning alcohol were bad.

Ergo, Bevis & Butthead not being given enough credit is on par with being in favor of prohibition? Please, please clarify.
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I've honestly almost given up hope in seeing truly original content anymore. I love the **** out of Mike Judge, but I've not watched a single episode of the B&B reboot. I likewise haven't seen a single episode of Ren & Stimpy for when that was rebooted on...Spike, I believe? Way too drunk and lazy to double check that. (I know that wasn't Mike Judge, but still - nostalgia + reboot...)

Anyhow...there are so many people who are now dead to me, who I previously respected the hell out of. One of these examples being Tim Burton who hasn't done anything orginal since Big Fish which I thoroughly enjoyed.

I agree with Ska in that it is no longer relevant...I did love Daria, but the kids who identified with Daria quickly became the kids who identified with Ghost World, then the kids who identified with Juno. It's just that everything seems to be becoming so repetitive and asinine that I'm predominately dismayed with the entertainment industry.
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I've honestly almost given up hope in seeing truly original content anymore. I love the **** out of Mike Judge, but I've not watched a single episode of the B&B reboot. I likewise haven't seen a single episode of Ren & Stimpy for when that was rebooted on...Spike, I believe? Way too drunk and lazy to double check that. (I know that wasn't Mike Judge, but still - nostalgia + reboot...)

Anyhow...there are so many people who are now dead to me, who I previously respected the hell out of. One of these examples being Tim Burton who hasn't done anything orginal since Big Fish which I thoroughly enjoyed.

I agree with Ska in that it is no longer relevant...I did love Daria, but the kids who identified with Daria quickly became the kids who identified with Ghost World, then the kids who identified with Juno. It's just that everything seems to be becoming so repetitive and asinine that I'm predominately dismayed with the entertainment industry.
Don't watch the ren and stimpy if you don't want to be very very veeeery sad.

I agree with the whole repetition and glorification of being "alternative" being annoying. Especially when its such a gradual thing. You are like wow that person is so cool. Then you see the other 10 people mimicking that person on television and it almost ruined what you liked in the first place.

Personally though I think Daria is a little bit different than any characters I have seen in the "alternative scope". She seems much more honest and concerned with doing her own thing rather than teenage insecurities but at the same time she has an incredibly balanced dynamic of being able to make slight adjustments to her attitude according to her experiences. It makes her a very realistic character despite her out of reality role of being in a cartoon with embellishment and the relatively safe world she lives in.
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