English Voters?

Tommyrocker · 04-24-2005, 01:37 PM

According to the powers that be, i have no valid opinion about my country's well-being for another 2 years...so it doesn't really apply to me but.....What party do you vote? If i could it would be conservative without a doubt

riseagainstrocks · 04-24-2005, 02:18 PM

I'm not english but i assume our conservatism is roughly the same. i however am more libertarian than anything...

blackTshirt · 04-24-2005, 02:39 PM

no english, no idea

Sweet Jane · 04-28-2005, 10:41 PM

Why Conservatives Tommyrocker? I'm curious.

Labour are becoming pretty Conservative these days as well, I'm leaning more towards the Lib Dems at the moment.

I find it odd that this thread has died such a death, especially seeing as so many of you are American, I know I take an interest in your presidential elections.

Tommyrocker · 04-29-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Jane

Why Conservatives Tommyrocker? I'm curious. .

because IN MY OPINION they are the best party. followed by Lib Dems (very popular in my area) and labour i absolutely despise and always will do. Especially while Mr Blair is in the hot seat.

Sweet Jane · 04-29-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommyrocker

because IN MY OPINION they are the best party.

I figured out that part myself - I was looking for further discussion, which policies of theres do you support, do you think the Thatcher years were good times? That sort of thing.

Tommyrocker · 04-29-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Jane

I figured out that part myself - I was looking for further discussion, which policies of theres do you support, do you think the Thatcher years were good times? That sort of thing.

Thatcher was the best post-war leader this country had (opinion)
Poll tax was miles better than the current situation
As for student overdrafts, Labour has seriously damaged University loans, the students now are facing depts around £10,000
The supporting of the rich act is heavily favoured by myself, letting businesses thrive, this creates jobs, i don't listen to the labour propaganda... so what if they support working class, thriving businesses means more jobs!!!!

incidentally.....as this is such a touchy subject, im saying
"opinion, opinion, opinion"

Sneer · 04-29-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommyrocker

Thatcher was the best post-war leader this country had (opinion)
Poll tax was miles better than the current situation
As for student overdrafts, Labour has seriously damaged University loans, the students now are facing depts around £10,000
The supporting of the rich act is heavily favoured by myself, letting businesses thrive, this creates jobs, i don't listen to the labour propaganda... so what if they support working class, thriving businesses means more jobs!!!!

yes but a lot of the working class do not have sufficient qualifications or skills to access these job opportunities. the support in working class means more accesible jobs are made available to people with lower abilities- so we all get a fair crack of the whip. it has been stated that labour are stronger in education, public services, crime and pension schemes. you may well say "id like to see the stats", the same could be said for your facts.

Sweet Jane · 05-01-2005, 04:11 AM

Don't you even remember the Thatcher years?? You want to bring back a party that wanted to bring massive cuts to public services, amongst other things? They don't look after the poor, which isn't going to have a great effect on our society, think back to last time they were in power.

Labour have massively increased spending on health and education, brought in the minimum wage, the working families tax credit, the child tax credit, increased child benefit, the new deal, doubled the aid budget and cancelled debt, brought in the european social chapter, the human rights act, boosted workers rights, reached an historic agreement in Northern Ireland, devolution, expanded the provision of childcare, scrapped the sick piece of discrimination that was section 28, cut overall crime by 30 per cent, slashed child poverty and has the best overall economic record in decades.

Remember, it's not only Labour and Conservatives who count, every debate about politics seems to start comparing the two to one another. So many people think it'll be a wasted vote to vote anyone else, it's that way of thinking that's stopping anyone else from moving forward.

Tommyrocker · 05-02-2005, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Jane

Don't you even remember the Thatcher years?? You want to bring back a party that wanted to bring massive cuts to public services, amongst other things? They don't look after the poor, which isn't going to have a great effect on our society, think back to last time they were in power.

Labour have massively increased spending on health and education, brought in the minimum wage, the working families tax credit, the child tax credit, increased child benefit, the new deal, doubled the aid budget and cancelled debt, brought in the european social chapter, the human rights act, boosted workers rights, reached an historic agreement in Northern Ireland, devolution, expanded the provision of childcare, scrapped the sick piece of discrimination that was section 28, cut overall crime by 30 per cent, slashed child poverty and has the best overall economic record in decades.

do you choose to live in the past?
Poor - They looked after my father, he payed much less tax than he does now and under tory leadership he made his living from a boy from peckham with no money to what can be now described as a well off gentleman. Since labour have taken over his profits are less and hes paying more tax for it, explain that.
Cancelled dept.....did you know according to the news...since the iraq war it has cost the tax-payer around 100 BILLION pounds? Labour labour labour
Incidentally, i can't help but feel EVERYTHING you stated is left-wing propaganda. It won't change my vote, I'll damn well vote Conservative to save this country and that's that.

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Sweet Jane Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 546	Why Conservatives Tommyrocker? I'm curious. Labour are becoming pretty Conservative these days as well, I'm leaning more towards the Lib Dems at the moment. I find it odd that this thread has died such a death, especially seeing as so many of you are American, I know I take an interest in your presidential elections. __________________ Calvin: "Do you believe in the devil? You know, a supreme evil being dedicated to the temptation, corruption, and destruction of man?" Hobbes: "I'm not sure that man needs the help."

05-01-2005, 04:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Sweet Jane Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 546	Don't you even remember the Thatcher years?? You want to bring back a party that wanted to bring massive cuts to public services, amongst other things? They don't look after the poor, which isn't going to have a great effect on our society, think back to last time they were in power. Labour have massively increased spending on health and education, brought in the minimum wage, the working families tax credit, the child tax credit, increased child benefit, the new deal, doubled the aid budget and cancelled debt, brought in the european social chapter, the human rights act, boosted workers rights, reached an historic agreement in Northern Ireland, devolution, expanded the provision of childcare, scrapped the sick piece of discrimination that was section 28, cut overall crime by 30 per cent, slashed child poverty and has the best overall economic record in decades. Remember, it's not only Labour and Conservatives who count, every debate about politics seems to start comparing the two to one another. So many people think it'll be a wasted vote to vote anyone else, it's that way of thinking that's stopping anyone else from moving forward. __________________ Calvin: "Do you believe in the devil? You know, a supreme evil being dedicated to the temptation, corruption, and destruction of man?" Hobbes: "I'm not sure that man needs the help."