58 Reasons to Hate America

**Janszoon** · 06-30-2011, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

if people are walking on the street killing with a knife and a gun is the same

Really? So you could, for example, stab someone who is across the street from you just as easily as you could shoot them? Is that what you're suggesting?

djchameleon · 06-30-2011, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Really? So you could, for example, stab someone who is across the street from you just as easily as you could shoot them? Is that what you're suggesting?

each scenario that you present is always in favor of the gun instead of presenting a scenario that is more neutral , where the two would be equal.

you are presenting a scenario of ranged verses closed ranged.

**Janszoon** · 06-30-2011, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

each scenario that you present is always in favor of the gun instead of presenting a scenario that is more neutral , where the two would be equal.

you are presenting a scenario of ranged verses closed ranged.

Well, that's the point. A gun is easier to kill someone with because it doesn't require you to get within arm's reach of them.

djchameleon · 06-30-2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Well, that's the point. A gun is easier to kill someone with because it doesn't require you to get within arm's reach of them.

if you have horrible accuracy with the gun you aren't going to kill the person though just because it's a ranged weapon.

**Janszoon** · 06-30-2011, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

if you have horrible accuracy with the gun you aren't going to kill the person though just because it's a ranged weapon.

You'd still have better chances than trying to kill someone at long range with a knife. Plus I don't think it requires amazing accuracy to shoot someone from, say, 15 feet away.

Howard the Duck · 06-30-2011, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

You'd still have better chances than trying to kill someone at long range with a knife.

there's something called a throwing knife, you know

also, if you can chuck a butcher knife with enough force, you can kill someone quite far off

**Janszoon** · 06-30-2011, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

there's something called a throwing knife, you know

also, if you can chuck a butcher knife with enough force, you can kill someone quite far off

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the average murderer in my city is unlikely to be a knife throwing expert.

djchameleon · 06-30-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the average murderer in my city is unlikely to be a knife throwing expert.

if you are going out on a limb for that then why must you insist that all gun shootings are going to be at long range when they occur at both places? close and long range.

Especially when they know they might be a ****ty shot, they usually go for point black range.

**Janszoon** · 06-30-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

if you are going out on a limb for that then why must you insist that all gun shootings are going to be at long range when they occur at both places? close and long range.

Especially when they know they might be a ****ty shot, they usually go for point black range.

Huh? When have I insisted that all shootings are going to be at long range?

FRED HALE SR. · 06-30-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the average murderer in my city is unlikely to be a knife throwing expert.

I'm not gonna go out on a limb and say your correct. Theres a reason they have gun ranges. I've never seen knife ranges. I would feel more confident having a gun in every situation, even arms length. It takes alot of force to kill someone with a knife.