Originally Posted by tore

I'm convinced that when society endorses or even encourages the acquisition and use of guns for anything but hunting animals, that will generally speaking promote violence. Weapons made to scare, defend against or even kill people become a part of society and people's lives more so than they would otherwise, even to the people who don't own them, for example because they feel they might run into someone else who does. It changes the way people interact and think about eachother and even if that change in one individual is very slight, when it affects everyone, it can have a measurable effect.

Originally Posted by RezZ

What about keeping the power to overthrow a corrupt government?

Originally Posted by RezZ

What about keeping the power to overthrow a corrupt government?

Originally Posted by Janszoon

I don't think hunting rifles and handguns would really do the job in that situation.

Originally Posted by The Virgin

what? i don't understand you. farming is for vegetables, not for meat. if ou disagree with a farming practice, you disagree on a vegetable. unless you have a different definition of farming.

Originally Posted by RezZ

What about keeping the power to overthrow a corrupt government?

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

This is the only reason that still gives me pause. I don't know that I can get behind it though. Like Janszoon said, what good are hand guns and hunting rifles gonna be against an Abrams tank with Predator air cover and artillery support. Sure, we could start a guerilla war, but we'd need actual military grade weapons and home made explosives to be able to do even the slightest amount of damage.

Originally Posted by OBEY

"Never trust your own eyes, believe what you are told".

Originally Posted by crash_override

You REALLY think that everyone in the military would side with the Government in that situation. There would be rogue factions all over the place commiting mutiny and jacking high grade equipment. Basically the same as every revlolution in history.

If your cause is pure enough, and your enemy is hated enough, revolution will succeed. So long as we have guns to protect our homes from being overrun by martial law.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by tore

You want to keep guns in society in case you need them for a bloody revolt against your government? You've got a democracy .. Can't you just wait until the next presidential period?

In all seriousness .. That sounds pretty crazy to me and a poor justification for endorsing guns in society.

Originally Posted by The Virgin

what? i don't understand you. farming is for vegetables, not for meat. if ou disagree with a farming practice, you disagree on a vegetable. unless you have a different definition of farming.

Originally Posted by tore

In all seriousness .. That sounds pretty crazy to me and a poor justification for endorsing guns in society.

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

IMO I don't know jack-**** though so don't listen to me.

Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

The problem is that most police officers in America are psychopaths.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

You're a terrible dictionary.