58 Reasons to Hate America

Guybrush · 06-30-2011, 09:56 PM

I'm convinced that when society endorses or even encourages the acquisition and use of guns for anything but hunting animals, that will generally speaking promote violence. Weapons made to scare, defend against or even kill people become a part of society and people's lives more so than they would otherwise, even to the people who don't own them, for example because they feel they might run into someone else who does. It changes the way people interact and think about eachother and even if that change in one individual is very slight, when it affects everyone, it can have a measurable effect.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-30-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the average murderer in my city is unlikely to be a knife throwing expert.

DJ, I would feel safer with a knife at me because it's easier to get out of the situation than someone with a gun. A knife can be kicked or slapped away if you've got self defense training.

Howard the Duck · 06-30-2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

DJ, I would feel safer with a knife at me because it's easier to get out of the situation than someone with a gun. A knife can be kicked or slapped away if you've got self defense training.

not when somebody just out of the blue conceals it and stabs you as you pass

edit - there are a lot of ways to kill with a knife or a sharp object if you've watched enough triad movies as I have

djchameleon · 07-01-2011, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

not when somebody just out of the blue conceals it and stabs you as you pass

edit - there are a lot of ways to kill with a knife or a sharp object if you've watched enough triad movies as I have

that's the thing about knives, most people that know how to use them well, will just go for the right spot and it will come out of the blue as they are passing you and you wouldn't be the wisest until it was too late. it's not like a gun where if you see them pointing it in time you can dodge out of the way.

Not saying that it would be the easiest thing to dodge but hey it could happen

**Janszoon** · 07-01-2011, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

that's the thing about knives, most people that know how to use them well, will just go for the right spot and it will come out of the blue as they are passing you and you wouldn't be the wisest until it was too late. it's not like a gun where if you see them pointing it in time you can dodge out of the way.

Not saying that it would be the easiest thing to dodge but hey it could happen

Did you just claim that it's easier to dodge bullets than a knife?

djchameleon · 07-01-2011, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Did you just claim that it's easier to dodge bullets than a knife?

yes I'm an expert at dodging bullets because I watched the Matrix!

captaincaptain · 07-01-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

yes I'm an expert at dodging bullets because I watched the Matrix!

I learned how to dodge bullets from The Mask.

The Batlord · 07-01-2011, 11:32 AM

@ DJchamelion

I'm done with debating you. It's pointless because you are pathologically incapable of considering anyone else's point of view.

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Originally Posted by Tuna

I think the better argument with making guns illegal has already been raised; that being that criminals will still find ways to illegally get their hands on guns while law abiding citizens won't have the means to protect themselves.

I can't seem to find anything on the net about it, but aren't you supposed to be ten times more likely to shoot a family member than an intruder?

I'm currently searching the net for something solid.

djchameleon · 07-01-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

@ DJchamelion

I'm done with debating you. It's pointless because you are pathologically incapable of considering anyone else's point of view.

I was done debating with you awhile ago, you came in the middle of me discussing my point with Jans which I don't mind, it's a public forum but you proceed to throw borderline insults at me because you obviously have some bone to pick with me.

I was over it along time ago.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-01-2011, 02:36 PM

Getting somewhat back to the original topic I've never ever found myself wanting to live in the U.S.
Seems to me to be the perfect place to live if you have money but if not then you're fucked.

Plus I also quite like the idea of subsidised healthcare and not have some bizarre obsession about having some kind of right of owning guns without being labelled a communist, even though in most civilized first world countries it's almost a given.

06-30-2011, 09:56 PM	#121 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I'm convinced that when society endorses or even encourages the acquisition and use of guns for anything but hunting animals, that will generally speaking promote violence. Weapons made to scare, defend against or even kill people become a part of society and people's lives more so than they would otherwise, even to the people who don't own them, for example because they feel they might run into someone else who does. It changes the way people interact and think about eachother and even if that change in one individual is very slight, when it affects everyone, it can have a measurable effect. __________________ Something Completely Different

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Getting somewhat back to the original topic I've never ever found myself wanting to live in the U.S. Seems to me to be the perfect place to live if you have money but if not then you're fucked. Plus I also quite like the idea of subsidised healthcare and not have some bizarre obsession about having some kind of right of owning guns without being labelled a communist, even though in most civilized first world countries it's almost a given. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.