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VEGANGELICA 05-09-2011 03:21 AM

FASCINATORS -- everything you want to know about them, and more!
 
Fascinators. Gauche? Preposterous? Adorable?

This thread is dedicated to fascinators -- the good, the bad, the outrageous, the fetching, and the ugly! Share your opinions and show pictures of fascinators that you love, hate, or at which you simply can't help but stare.


I am a little fascinated by fascinators. What is a fascinator, you ask? Here are some definitions:

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A fascinator is "a delicate, slightly-to-very frivolous head decoration worn almost exclusively by women. A substantial fascinator is a fascinator of some size or bulk. They attach to the hair by a comb, headband or clip." Fascinator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"As it turns out, a fascinator is a form of headgear that doesn't hug the natural contours of your bonce, as most hats still do, but is a sort of artistic installation attached by glue, hatpins or some other piece of milliner's artifice. Most of these fascinators look like kites that have got lodged in their wearer's head by accident. The real fascination is why on earth anyone would consider themselves more attractive for sporting the sort of arrangement that Liberace would have ordered for one of his dancers."
Q: When is a Royal Ascot hat not a hat? | Michael Gove - Times Online
Before Kate and William's wedding, I never knew about fascinators as a distinct type of human ornamentation. I am now intrigued by this phenomenon of people using peculiar, impractical headpieces to decorate themselves in order to catch attention and to surprise.

What I like about fascinators is that they show people appreciating their individuality even as they copy others. Fascinators, in my opinion, reveal that people enjoy their own creativity and sense of humor, and may admire the natural beauty of other animals, tufted and colorful in ways we are not.

I predict we will be seeing more fascinators now in daily life, for better or worse, because fascinator hats have even hit Iowa! Last week I saw two college women wearing fake flower fascinators that looked a little like Kate Middleton's below, but smaller:

http://c3.yousaytoo.com/rss_temp_ima...-1is7a8v-0.jpg

And here are more of Kate's fascinators. I actually think they are kind of cute! However, on the down side, I see that many fascinators appear to be made with real birds' feathers...and that probably means somewhere people are killing birds and collecting their feathers to turn into adornments, which I find sad. :(

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users1...9272201351.jpg

http://www.utahbrideblog.com/wp-cont...-brown-hat.jpg

Seeing all these women wearing fascinators made me wonder: are men being left out of this phenomenon? The feminist in me hoped the answer was no. So I did a search, and found...

A male fascinator made with real flowers. :) No dead birds here:

http://earthfirst.com/wp-content/upl...ascinators.jpg

And here's what the world would look like if men wore fascinators more often than they do:

http://www.cairnsfest.com.au/uploads...ascinators.jpg

:)

crash_override 05-09-2011 03:27 AM

What the hell is going on?

VEGANGELICA 05-09-2011 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1050785)
What the hell is going on?

You are stunned by fascinator hats.

crash_override 05-09-2011 03:36 AM

This is madness, is this what people are calling fashion these days?

VEGANGELICA 05-09-2011 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1050789)
This is madness, is this what people are calling fashion these days?

Madness? Whatever do you mean...madness?

;)

http://fashionablepeople.files.wordp...inator-two.jpg

http://royalweddings.hellomagazine.c...70/zara--a.jpg

http://www.thepaperfox.net/wp-conten...at-232x300.jpg

:D

(That last little one is my favorite, methinks)

s_k 05-09-2011 04:14 AM

One step beyoooond

Farfisa 05-09-2011 04:27 AM

Oh my god, why? Fascinator hats on a guys?

djchameleon 05-09-2011 04:43 AM

Fascinator Hats can make or break an outfit of the person chooses the wrong one imo.

I will post a few of my faves a little later

s_k 05-09-2011 04:51 AM

Woah. You scare me :D

djchameleon 05-09-2011 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s_k (Post 1050823)
Woah. You scare me :D

I blame it on my mother and her hat collection.

Therefore I'm quite knowledgeable about them

s_k 05-09-2011 05:01 AM

Hahaha, allright. That's plausible :D

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-09-2011 09:42 AM

I don't think he owns a hat like this but he should so this is an artists impression....

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...l050908_nc.jpg

Janszoon 05-09-2011 10:37 AM

:laughing:

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 05-09-2011 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1050889)
I don't think he owns a hat like this but he should so this is an artists impression....

That's strange... the penis is ejaculating, yet not erect at all.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-09-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skaligojurah (Post 1051008)
That's strange... the penis is ejaculating, yet not erect at all.

Peyronie's disease - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Batlord 05-09-2011 03:24 PM

I'm not entirely sure why a discussion about hats has turned into trading gay porn.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 05-09-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1051016)

Aw... so the collar does match the cuffs!

Janszoon 05-09-2011 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skaligojurah (Post 1051008)
That's strange... the penis is ejaculating, yet not erect at all.

It's not ejaculate. It's the clap.

holly984 05-09-2011 06:47 PM

Vegangelica- Those two above are as far as I'd go. They have a cute retro vibe to them, imo.

I personally think most all of the hats look extraordinarily silly, but if they enjoy it...meh. As for guys wearing fascinator hats, um....

Here are a few I found especially outrageous. I don't get it, lol......

http://www.eatmedaily.com/wordpress/...scot-candy.jpg

http://0.tqn.com/d/jewelry/1/0/F/s/royal-ascot-4736.jpg

http://www.eatmedaily.com/wordpress/...cream-cone.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...12_306x506.jpg

check out her fingernails too. yikes.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...27_634x385.jpg

http://mycoolpix.com/files/funzug/im...pt_hats_03.jpg

http://mycoolpix.com/files/funzug/im...pt_hats_05.jpg

http://mycoolpix.com/files/funzug/im...pt_hats_06.jpg

Neapolitan 05-09-2011 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by holly984 (Post 1051167)

Not to sound cheesy but that's one Gouda looking hat.

holly984 05-09-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1051171)
Not to sound cheesy but that's one Gouda looking hat.

:laughing:

a few more i'd missed....


http://www.backstageconfidential.net...ay_B_SW046.jpg

http://mycoolpix.com/files/funzug/im...pt_hats_07.jpg

http://mycoolpix.com/files/funzug/im...pt_hats_01.jpg

this one would actually be okay if it were an iphone
http://mycoolpix.com/files/funzug/im...pt_hats_10.jpg

Neapolitan 05-09-2011 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1050785)
What the hell is going on?

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 1050786)
You are stunned by fascinator hats.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8558/...527s2bdres.jpg

Batty 05-09-2011 08:51 PM

waste of friggin time.

Paedantic Basterd 05-09-2011 09:11 PM

We do know that the last three are definitely photoshopped right?

Dirty 05-09-2011 09:25 PM

I didn't even know these existed until now. I don't think I've ever seen one in real life. After seeing pics though, I'll say they look completely retarded.

djchameleon 05-10-2011 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holly984 (Post 1051167)
Vegangelica- Those two above are as far as I'd go. They have a cute retro vibe to them, imo.

I personally think most all of the hats look extraordinarily silly, but if they enjoy it...meh. As for guys wearing fascinator hats, um....

Here are a few I found especially outrageous. I don't get it, lol......

http://www.eatmedaily.com/wordpress/...scot-candy.jpg

http://0.tqn.com/d/jewelry/1/0/F/s/royal-ascot-4736.jpg

http://www.eatmedaily.com/wordpress/...cream-cone.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...12_306x506.jpg

check out her fingernails too. yikes.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...27_634x385.jpg

http://mycoolpix.com/files/funzug/im...pt_hats_03.jpg

http://mycoolpix.com/files/funzug/im...pt_hats_05.jpg

http://mycoolpix.com/files/funzug/im...pt_hats_06.jpg

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Originally Posted by holly984 (Post 1051189)
:laughing:

a few more i'd missed....


http://www.backstageconfidential.net...ay_B_SW046.jpg

These hats aren't considered Fascinators. The fascinators are generally smaller and look more like a headclip/head band type thing.

VEGANGELICA 05-10-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1051308)
These hats aren't considered Fascinators. The fascinators are generally smaller and look more like a headclip/head band type thing.

Right you are, dj. Fascinators are distinct from hats. I have corrected my initial post to provide a proper definition and hopefully avoid further confusion:

Quote:

"A fascinator is a form of headgear that doesn't hug the natural contours of your bonce, as most hats still do, but is a sort of artistic installation attached by glue, hatpins or some other piece of milliner's artifice." Q: When is a Royal Ascot hat not a hat? | Michael Gove - Times Online

"The general theory is that a fascinator is neither a hat nor a feather but something somewhere in between, which, for the benefit of the more practical- minded, won't keep your hair dry if it rains." Royal Ascot Diary - Telegraph
Let us consider a previous example of a fascinator provided in this thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1050889)
I don't think he owns a hat like this but he should so this is an artists impression....

Now, our resident artist's impression of a fascinator for Simon *would* qualify as a fascinator...a headpiece headpiece, if I may be so bold. Perched upon Simon's forehead and presumably affixed by glue, that jaunty fascinator would not keep his hair dry if it rains.

Below is an example of a fascinator reminiscent of Simon's so that all can practice distinguishing a fascinator from its larger cousin, the hat. Notice, if you will, that the base of this fascinator is much smaller than that of a typical hat. I believe this fascinator to be...a jellyfish:

FASCINATOR:
http://blog.craftzine.com/bloopFascinator.jpg

HAT:
http://www.independent.co.uk/multime...ion_58733t.jpg

s_k 05-10-2011 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1051171)
Not to sound cheesy but that's one Gouda looking hat.

I've never seen a red cheese in my life.
Except for babybel (anyone know that here?)
Strange.

VEGANGELICA 05-10-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1051210)

:laughing: I love how Princess Beatrice's bold fascinator is used as the phasers! Stunned and amused was exactly how I felt when I saw her wearing it.

One commentator had this to say about Princess Beatrice's fascinator:

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Allow me to raise my glass in a toast and say, I am indeed fascinated as I gaze at your fascinator, and my mind begins to drift…

BEATRICE TO HAT SHOP ATTENDANT: Do you have any hats that will subconsciously alert men to my fertility, maybe by reminding them of their gym class diagram of the female reproductive organs?

BEATRICE TO DESIGNER: Can you design something that allows me to send a subtle message that I disapprove of the marriage, but in the politest way possible?

DESIGNER: How about a toilet seat, but with a fancy ribbon around it?

Princess Beatrice’s Fascinator « The Good Greatsby
Others describe it as "an octopus in attack mode." http://news.softpedia.com/news/Princ...e-198106.shtml

:)

I admire her moxy:

http://thegoodgreatsby.files.wordpre...genia-hats.jpg

Burning Down 05-10-2011 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s_k (Post 1051385)
I've never seen a red cheese in my life.
Except for babybel (anyone know that here?)
Strange.

I love Babybel cheese! And Gouda is covered in red paraffin wax, isn't it? It's definitely not red on the inside.

Some of those fascinators and the hats that have been posted are ridiculous. Creative, yes, but some of them are just ugly.

Princess Beatrice wore way too much eye makeup. She looks like a raccoon.

Neapolitan 05-10-2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1051219)
I didn't even know these existed until now. I don't think I've ever seen one in real life. After seeing pics though, I'll say they look completely retarded.

Are you talking about women or hats?:confused:

Zaqarbal 05-11-2011 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 1050781)
Before Kate and William's wedding, I never knew about fascinators as a distinct type of human ornamentation. I am now INTRIGUED BY THIS PHENOMENON of people using peculiar, impractical headpieces to decorate themselves in order to catch attention and to surprise.

I predict we will be seeing more fascinators now in daily life, for better or worse, because fascinator hats have even hit Iowa!

"Intrigued"? "Phenomenon"? :confused: With due respect, Erica, your female "fascination" about headgear (I'm talking about that within the limits of a minimum good taste) is at least three centuries late compared to that of Spanish women. I'll show you a few examples:

These are three portraits of Spanish ladies from the 19th-century, by painter Raimundo Madrazo (1841-1920):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_abanico.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...o_de_joven.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...dy_1885-95.jpg


Next, Portrait of Raquel Meller (Julio Romero de Torres, 1910) and Spanish Lady (Carl von Steuben, 1834):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._de_Torres.jpg http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/3...nspanishla.jpg




Another one by Goya from 1810. And at the right, an even older painting (c.1642) of a Spanish lady, by Claudio Coello.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nia-Zarate.jpg http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/176...adamac1642.jpg


But wait, that's not all! I've got another "surprise" for you. I'll tell you later on, Vege. Stay tuned.


VEGANGELICA 05-11-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 1051856)
"Intrigued"? "Phenomenon"? :confused: With due respect, Erica, your female "fascination" about headgear (I'm talking about that within the limits of a minimum good taste) is at least three centuries late compared to that of Spanish women. I'll show you a few examples:

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/3...nspanishla.jpg

But wait, that's not all! I've got another "surprise" for you. I'll tell you later on, Vege. Stay tuned.

Good point, Zaqarbal. I am unfamiliar with the long history of people's headwear, since it only recently gained my full attention.

The woman above is stunning...even without fascinators! Her ornate earrings remind me of how fascinators are a subclass of head ornamentation that includes all sorts of adornments: jewelry, hats/veils, fancy barrettes, etc.

I suspect that the urge to decorate one's head involves pleasure at being and expressing creativity plus gaining people's attention and admiration...or just their surprise! The behavior of people decorating themselves, reflecting the mind inside, is really rather cute.

Your post made me look into the history of fascinators. So far all I've learned is what your painting examples show: fascinators originated hundreds of years ago out of lacy material that people used to decorate themselves:

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Fascinators have fascinated for 300 years

Feather headwear has a long history. European aristocrats, both men and women, began wearing plumed cavalier hats (the hats worn by the Three Musketeers) in 17th century, according to headwear history expert Beverly Chico of the Chico Group in Greenwood Village, Colo. European women in the 18th century wore their own variations of the broad-rimmed plumed hats, Chico says.

However, today’s fascinator takes its name from another hair accessory that bears little resemblance. Originally, a fascinator was a decorative covering made of lace or other delicate material for the head and shoulders, Chico says.

“It has gone in and out of fashion since the 17th century,” Chico says. “By the 19th century Victorian era, somehow its name became interchangeable with ‘cloud,’ but I am not sure why.”
I remember reading a magazine article several months ago about African lads who, without mirrors, decorate their heads in amazing, artistic ways using leaves, flowers, and pigments as paint. In my opinion, their endeavors are related to the urge to fascinate oneself and others by decorating one's head with fascinators.

I wish I could find pictures of these young men's creative head decorations! Since they lacked mirrors, they could only tell how they looked by seeing others' reactions, which served as their mirrors of the self. I imagine that hundreds of thousands of years ago, people were probably also plopping stuff on their heads to startle and appeal to family, friends, and strangers.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-11-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 1051377)
Now, our resident artist's impression of a fascinator for Simon *would* qualify as a fascinator...a headpiece headpiece, if I may be so bold. Perched upon Simon's forehead and presumably affixed by glue, that jaunty fascinator would not keep his hair dry if it rains.

Glue?

No no no

His head is so big it has it's own gravitational pull. That's what keeps it attached.

Burning Down 05-14-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1052062)
Glue?

No no no

His head is so big it has it's own gravitational pull. That's what keeps it attached.

:laughing:

Zaqarbal 06-01-2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 1052053)
I imagine that hundreds of thousands of years ago, people were probably also plopping stuff on their heads to startle and appeal to family, friends, and strangers.

Yes. Egyptians, for instance. Personally, I can show you the case of the Ancient Iberians. I've been many times at the National Archaeological Museum and taken hundreds of photos of Iberian antiquities. Female sculptures show how ancient Iberian women wore elaborate ornaments and dresses:


Amazing, isn't it? I've also read some stuff about it. There are written sources from the time too. According to 5th-century-BC Greek travelers, Iberian women were regarded as talented and skilled dressmakers. They also wrote that there were some sort of "dress contests". Imagine: female fashion designers 25 centuries ago!! Versace? Gucci? Pierre Cardin? Armani? Calvin Klein? Meh. They're not that original, actually (besides, they're men :)).

Zaqarbal 06-01-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 1050781)
Quote:

"As it turns out, a fascinator is a form of headgear that doesn't hug the natural contours of your bonce, as most hats still do, but is a sort of artistic installation attached by glue, hatpins or some other piece of milliner's artifice. (...)"
Q: When is a Royal Ascot hat not a hat? | Michael Gove - Times Online

No glue needed. There's a comb named peineta, of different shapes and sizes. Perhaps you remember it from some artistic photography or an old movie:


That's an ancient Iberian invention. Look at this statuette (I took the picture myself). It is from the Iron Age II:


Actually, many things are much older than people usually think. Even the futuristic fashion is old. Really. You thought those Star Wars' striking female hairstyles were original? :nono: Princess Leia, "futuristic"? Nah. Just a copy. Look at these sculptures of Iberian ladies from the 5th century BC:



This headgear is part of a ceremonial folk costume from Valencia. It dates from the 18th century, and it is inspired by those of ancient Iberian women. They were so trendy!


VEGANGELICA 06-14-2011 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 1063494)
Yes. Egyptians, for instance. Personally, I can show you the case of the Ancient Iberians. I've been many times at the National Archaeological Museum and taken hundreds of photos of Iberian antiquities. Female sculptures show how ancient Iberian women wore elaborate ornaments and dresses: . . .

Amazing, isn't it? I've also read some stuff about it. There are written sources from the time too. According to 5th-century-BC Greek travelers, Iberian women were regarded as talented and skilled dressmakers. They also wrote that there were some sort of "dress contests". Imagine: female fashion designers 25 centuries ago!! Versace? Gucci? Pierre Cardin? Armani? Calvin Klein? Meh. They're not that original, actually (besides, they're men :)).

Very interesting to see the fashions of ancient Iberian women! I agree that we in the present often seem to think we're so hip and modern, forgetting that we're just on the fringe of a huge and wonderful cultural history tapestry woven by our dead relatives.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 1063497)
No glue needed. There's a comb named peineta, of different shapes and sizes. Perhaps you remember it from some artistic photography or an old movie:


That's an ancient Iberian invention. Look at this statuette (I took the picture myself). It is from the Iron Age II:


Actually, many things are much older than people usually think. Even the futuristic fashion is old. Really. You thought those Star Wars' striking female hairstyles were original? :nono: Princess Leia, "futuristic"? Nah. Just a copy. Look at these sculptures of Iberian ladies from the 5th century BC: . . .

This headgear is part of a ceremonial folk costume from Valencia. It dates from the 18th century, and it is inspired by those of ancient Iberian women. They were so trendy!


I remember as a child thinking Princess Leia's headgear was so fascinatingly futuristic! Little did I know. :)

Thank you for sharing your photos and insights, Zaqarbal.

Howard the Duck 06-14-2011 08:55 AM

they haven't caught on here

(thanks the Lord for small mercies)

The Virgin 06-14-2011 09:19 AM

i personally believe that drag queens wear better fascinator hats than anyone else on the planet:

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/452018-manila_luzon.jpg

http://www.missgayamerica.com/images....for%20web.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nu_0CjbqaB...844_9424_n.jpg


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