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Old 05-11-2011, 09:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are you ****ing kidding me? Getting "control" over the habit by drinking less? When he already knows he has a serious problem and really needs to quit? What kind of ****ing logic is that? hip hop bunny hop's advice is good because exercise gives you endorphins, which will help him to stay positive in this long, hard road. It WILL give him self confidence and make him feel good about himself, how good is he going to feel if he just succumbs to another ****ing habit?! Jesus christ what the **** is wrong with you people that you endorse such ideas!
I don`t know why you are so outraged at the idea of replacing one habit with another. Some habits are bad, some are less bad, some are good. Anyone who can replace a bad habit with one that is less damaging is moving in the right direction and has a chance to feel some sense of progress. It builds up self-confidence and brings closer the goal of quitting altogether.

What is true is that anyone with a severe alcoholic problem needs more than the kind of self-help tricks that I mentioned: they need outside, professional help.

On this, at least, we can agree, Paloma :-

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Old 05-13-2011, 11:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don`t know why you are so outraged at the idea of replacing one habit with another. Some habits are bad, some are less bad, some are good. Anyone who can replace a bad habit with one that is less damaging is moving in the right direction and has a chance to feel some sense of progress. It builds up self-confidence and brings closer the goal of quitting altogether.
I think I understand where she's coming from. Maybe I misunderstood I don't wanna speak for anyone else here. But personally, I think if you replace one habit with another, you're solving the symptom and not the problem.

You should excercise to stay healthy. You should not exercise to escape your problems.


You really just need to face your problems. Or stfu about them. But the moment you start ignoring them is the moment you've ****ed yourself in the brain

People dont's just pick a bottle and chug it for the hell of it, on a regular basis. There's always a reason. Teens do it to look cool fair enough, but when someone is using it to blow themselves up, metaphorically speaking, it wont help to replace the bottle. Replace it with a weight, they'll kill themselves weight lifting.

You have to address the central problem of self-destruction. Or dont, and just stfu, like I said.

Drink, who cares. I don't. But if you wanna stop, just stop. There's no middle ground. There's no magic solution. You just stop picking up the bottle, You deal with the pain and the cravings, and you show that you still have some element of control of yourself, and show that that willpower will come up trumps against your addiction.

There are no magic solutions in life. Either balls up and do something. or stfu about it and keep drinking. No middle ground. You're either at one end or the other, there are just varying degrees of people deluding themselves thinking they're being proactive.

****ing...20p in the donation box every month and a brisk walk around the block is not proactive. It's a ****ing rat in a maze.

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