crukster

I think I understand where she's coming from. Maybe I misunderstood I don't wanna speak for anyone else here. But personally, I think if you replace one habit with another, you're solving the symptom and not the problem.

You should excercise to stay healthy. You should not exercise to escape your problems.


You really just need to face your problems. Or stfu about them. But the moment you start ignoring them is the moment you've ****ed yourself in the brain

People dont's just pick a bottle and chug it for the hell of it, on a regular basis. There's always a reason. Teens do it to look cool fair enough, but when someone is using it to blow themselves up, metaphorically speaking, it wont help to replace the bottle. Replace it with a weight, they'll kill themselves weight lifting.

You have to address the central problem of self-destruction. Or dont, and just stfu, like I said.

Drink, who cares. I don't. But if you wanna stop, just stop. There's no middle ground. There's no magic solution. You just stop picking up the bottle, You deal with the pain and the cravings, and you show that you still have some element of control of yourself, and show that that willpower will come up trumps against your addiction.

There are no magic solutions in life. Either balls up and do something. or stfu about it and keep drinking. No middle ground. You're either at one end or the other, there are just varying degrees of people deluding themselves thinking they're being proactive.

****ing...20p in the donation box every month and a brisk walk around the block is not proactive. It's a ****ing rat in a maze.

Guybrush

There's a perfectly good reason why alcoholics may want to reconsider a decision to quit cold turkey.

Source >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol...hol_withdrawal

So depending on the severity of the addiction, quitting cold turkey could seriously damage health (delirium etc.) and even kill an alcoholic. Hence, quitting should be managed, preferably with the help of a doctor and severe alcoholics should manage their drinking (wean off) before quitting completely.

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Sparky

I think your intentions are good, and you've said you were a previous addict, but I'm not quite sure i believe you.

Lisnaholic advice seemed genuine because it captured the mindset pretty good. When your an addict it's always going to be in your mind, at least his advice had a structure and a way of making improvements in a obtainable way.

Saying you should replace alchohol with exercise sounds great, but it really isn't a practical step, unless he's drinking because of serious self-esteem issues, trying to appeal to the opposite gender isn't really the primary concern right now.

From expireance i've actually done what lisnaholic did, though with my own routines, and it did work out for me. Quitting doesn't always take the giant steps people assume, it's just a matter of organizing your thoughts.

AA and other programs have an incredibly high failure rate, something like 90% your honestly better off trying to find a solution that works for you

Sansa Stark

Well he's not you, and you are not him. You don't have an addiction to booze, so how can you empathise?

s_k

It seemed like a plausible method to me.
I mean, I'm sure you have a lot more experience than I do, but I think it would really work. Why else would I say so?
Apparently it doesn't. Well okay.

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crukster

I would say its like a fish hook. The more you put the bait of booze in front of you, the more you chase after it.

I don't think drinking less would work, if you could just drink less you wouldn't really be facing the problem of reliance in the first place.

Personally speaking I didn't give a **** when I was on the juice. I would have one swig, **** it man have another swig why not.

Just saying ah alright one swig is enough today...eh...it never is enough. You awlays think, **** it man have another one.


You've really gotta tackle the problem of why you're saying **** it in the first place. Say **** the booze, if you've identified it as aggravating your problems, just go cold Turkey, stop. Thats the only way you're gonna get off it.

And instead of constantly looking back for the comfort of the bottle, instead of escaping, you've gotta tackle your problem.

Could be anything, maybe grief, maybe heartache, maybe lonliness, maybe you lost someone close to you. Or maybe your life is just a giant pile of ****, I dunno.

Well you've gotta put down the bottle and clean it up, you've gotta face ****

Sansa Stark

This is truly the most lucid thing I've ever seen you post.

crukster

Lucid in what context

Howard the Duck

i've never actually had any problems with alcohol

i can binge or abstain entirely

there's no addiction whatsoever

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