Is It Better To Have Loved, And Lost? Than To Have Never Loved At All?

djchameleon · 04-18-2011, 08:43 AM

What is love?

baby don't hurt me

don't hurt me

No more!

chipper · 04-18-2011, 11:46 AM

This is probably the most cynical view you will hear today:

When people say they are "in love", it's actually vanity not love.

Everyone has an innate need to feel important. That’s a universal truth. That is up there in the ranks of ‘we all need to eat’ and ‘we all need to sleep’.

That is why people “fall in love” with others. When someone makes them feel important and needed, they instinctively get attracted because their need is being met. They get the attention that they want, the knowing that there is someone else that gives a f$%k that they are alive, that in the billions and billions of people in this world, there is someone that would like to spend time with them over everyone else.

No one falls in love with someone that makes them feel like a worthless piece of sh!t, right? “Love” always begins with a smile that melts hearts or a hello what was just a little softer than other hellos or glance that lasted a second too long. It is always when someone makes you feel special.

Then you stay. You stay because you need a witness to your life as it is beautifully articulated in Shall We Dance. You need someone there to make you feel things you do don’t go unnoticed.

I don’t know if it is romantic but I do know it’s still about the self and not the other person.

It is vanity… not love.

Paedantic Basterd · 04-18-2011, 11:52 AM

Hahahaha. I'm not sure even I'm willing to look at it that negatively, but I appreciate your cynicism and think that you may have a valid point.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-18-2011, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chipper

This is probably the most cynical view you will hear today:

When people say they are "in love", it's actually vanity not love.

Everyone has an innate need to feel important. That’s a universal truth. That is up there in the ranks of ‘we all need to eat’ and ‘we all need to sleep’.

That is why people “fall in love” with others. When someone makes them feel important and needed, they instinctively get attracted because their need is being met. They get the attention that they want, the knowing that there is someone else that gives a f$%k that they are alive, that in the billions and billions of people in this world, there is someone that would like to spend time with them over everyone else.

No one falls in love with someone that makes them feel like a worthless piece of sh!t, right? “Love” always begins with a smile that melts hearts or a hello what was just a little softer than other hellos or glance that lasted a second too long. It is always when someone makes you feel special.

Then you stay. You stay because you need a witness to your life as it is beautifully articulated in Shall We Dance. You need someone there to make you feel things you do don’t go unnoticed.

I don’t know if it is romantic but I do know it’s still about the self and not the other person.

It is vanity… not love.

Why does unrequited love develop?

TockTockTock · 04-18-2011, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chipper

This is probably the most cynical view you will hear today:

When people say they are "in love", it's actually vanity not love.

Everyone has an innate need to feel important. That’s a universal truth. That is up there in the ranks of ‘we all need to eat’ and ‘we all need to sleep’.

That is why people “fall in love” with others. When someone makes them feel important and needed, they instinctively get attracted because their need is being met. They get the attention that they want, the knowing that there is someone else that gives a f$%k that they are alive, that in the billions and billions of people in this world, there is someone that would like to spend time with them over everyone else.

No one falls in love with someone that makes them feel like a worthless piece of sh!t, right? “Love” always begins with a smile that melts hearts or a hello what was just a little softer than other hellos or glance that lasted a second too long. It is always when someone makes you feel special.

Then you stay. You stay because you need a witness to your life as it is beautifully articulated in Shall We Dance. You need someone there to make you feel things you do don’t go unnoticed.

I don’t know if it is romantic but I do know it’s still about the self and not the other person.

It is vanity… not love.

Originally, I was just going to dive in and start a debate here, but... you know what? I think I'll wait and contemplate it a bit, then I'll get back to you. You appear to make some sense so I won't dismiss your comment quite yet... I'll admit, though, that I have never fallen in love before, so this may be a bit difficult. Haha

Wayfarer · 04-18-2011, 04:34 PM

Are you sure you're not just projecting your own convictions/values on the whole of humanity in a desperate attempt to justify your own vanity? 'Cause my family makes me feel important and needed, but I can't imagine myself ever feeling the urge to **** my father if he were to chisel his way out of the cellar.

Howard the Duck · 04-19-2011, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chipper

This is probably the most cynical view you will hear today:

When people say they are "in love", it's actually vanity not love.

Everyone has an innate need to feel important. That’s a universal truth. That is up there in the ranks of ‘we all need to eat’ and ‘we all need to sleep’.

That is why people “fall in love” with others. When someone makes them feel important and needed, they instinctively get attracted because their need is being met. They get the attention that they want, the knowing that there is someone else that gives a f$%k that they are alive, that in the billions and billions of people in this world, there is someone that would like to spend time with them over everyone else.

No one falls in love with someone that makes them feel like a worthless piece of sh!t, right? “Love” always begins with a smile that melts hearts or a hello what was just a little softer than other hellos or glance that lasted a second too long. It is always when someone makes you feel special.

Then you stay. You stay because you need a witness to your life as it is beautifully articulated in Shall We Dance. You need someone there to make you feel things you do don’t go unnoticed.

I don’t know if it is romantic but I do know it’s still about the self and not the other person.

It is vanity… not love.

you don't get the feeling you're walking on air when you see the person?

or miss them so much you cry?

bro/sis, you've never been truly in love

chipper · 04-19-2011, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Are you sure you're not just projecting your own convictions/values on the whole of humanity in a desperate attempt to justify your own vanity? 'Cause my family makes me feel important and needed, but I can't imagine myself ever feeling the urge to **** my father if he were to chisel his way out of the cellar.

lust is different from love

chipper · 04-19-2011, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Duce

you don't get the feeling you're walking on air when you see the person?

or miss them so much you cry?

bro/sis, you've never been truly in love

i can't believe i will ask this but fine...

what is love?

crash_override · 04-19-2011, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Duce

you don't get the feeling you're walking on air when you see the person?

or miss them so much you cry?

bro/sis, you've never been truly in love

There's a difference between being in love, and being Hugh Grant.

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04-18-2011, 11:46 AM	#72 (permalink)
chipper Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: LA, Ca Posts: 179	This is probably the most cynical view you will hear today: When people say they are "in love", it's actually vanity not love. Everyone has an innate need to feel important. That’s a universal truth. That is up there in the ranks of ‘we all need to eat’ and ‘we all need to sleep’. That is why people “fall in love” with others. When someone makes them feel important and needed, they instinctively get attracted because their need is being met. They get the attention that they want, the knowing that there is someone else that gives a f$%k that they are alive, that in the billions and billions of people in this world, there is someone that would like to spend time with them over everyone else. No one falls in love with someone that makes them feel like a worthless piece of sh!t, right? “Love” always begins with a smile that melts hearts or a hello what was just a little softer than other hellos or glance that lasted a second too long. It is always when someone makes you feel special. Then you stay. You stay because you need a witness to your life as it is beautifully articulated in Shall We Dance. You need someone there to make you feel things you do don’t go unnoticed. I don’t know if it is romantic but I do know it’s still about the self and not the other person. It is vanity… not love. __________________ real love letters to exes

04-18-2011, 11:52 AM	#73 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Hahahaha. I'm not sure even I'm willing to look at it that negatively, but I appreciate your cynicism and think that you may have a valid point.

04-18-2011, 04:34 PM	#76 (permalink)
Wayfarer Registered Abuser Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 573	Are you sure you're not just projecting your own convictions/values on the whole of humanity in a desperate attempt to justify your own vanity? 'Cause my family makes me feel important and needed, but I can't imagine myself ever feeling the urge to **** my father if he were to chisel his way out of the cellar.