The Rest in Peace Thread (RIP)

Tristan_Geoff · 04-15-2021, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I stand with BLM

Im for reparations of every kind up to and including direct payments

but apparently leftism means giving a pass to the worst elements of popular culture as long as they have a tint of blackness...idk dude THAT strikes me as kinda racist

Hip hop is good tho ur just a hater

Tristan_Geoff · 04-15-2021, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

it's not even relevant whether the music is good

Idk what u mean then

**Frownland** · 04-15-2021, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I stand with BLM

Im for reparations of every kind up to and including direct payments

but apparently leftism means giving a pass to the worst elements of popular culture as long as they have a tint of blackness...idk dude THAT strikes me as kinda racist

jwb would never be racist. He lives right next to black people, I'd like to see you try to do something so scary.

**Marie Monday** · 04-15-2021, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

My people didn't make their money in oil. We're not oil people. Oi'll have you know that.

Oh but I can just see it now: a bunch of fifty-year old white guys looking up at the exasperated black teacher:

"Now, repeat after me homies - YO! BIATCH!"
"You Bitch!"
"Nah dude, nah! LISTEN to what I'm SAYIN' yeah? YO BIATCH!"
"YOU BITCH!"
"YO!"
"Y-o?"
"NOW you gettin' it! Okay then, BIATCH!"
"BITCH!"
"Na na na bruv! BIATCH! Listen again! Bee-atch!"
"Beach!"
"Listen dude yeah? Listen to how I say it. Bee-ATCH!"
"Bitch!"
"I think we'll break for lunch. Who gonna hook me up man?"

yiiikes
I actually think jwb has a point in the more general sense that we should learn more about all different kinds of cultures in school

The Batlord · 04-15-2021, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

yiiikes
I actually think jwb has a point in the more general sense that we should learn more about all different kinds of cultures in school

We do. North AND South.

~~jwb~~ · 04-15-2021, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I stand with BLM

Im for reparations of every kind up to and including direct payments

but apparently leftism means giving a pass to the worst elements of popular culture as long as they have a tint of blackness...idk dude THAT strikes me as kinda racist

I didn't "give it a pass" I said it was being exaggerated and was on bad taste to harp on about when he just died. I literally don't see what good is accomplished by that.

The homophobia in hip hop actually has been a point of conversation for a while now and it's just simply not true that nobody addresses it or that there haven't been significant shift in the prevailing attitudes towards lgbt issues in the last 20 years. The homo thugs line was extremely tame, relatively speaking, and was penned by sometime decades ago with a long history of mental illness and addiction who is just now recently deceased. If you wanted to take him to task for that you're about 10 years late.

~~jwb~~ · 04-15-2021, 01:26 PM

Also... "You'll give him a pass cause he's black" is quite literally the standard conservative "white guilt" talking point. Good one, Hannity.

Lucem Ferre · 04-15-2021, 03:02 PM

It's the standard conservative take to bash hip hop in general and search for reasons to dismiss the genre. Especially these days when hip hop just might bring us the first transgender superstar. The homophobia take is so outdated. It's like they don't know about Tyler, the Creator, Frank Ocean, Kevin Abstract & Lil Nas X being huge in the culture.

I think Adi has every right to hate and celebrate DMX's death but to me it just feels like him looking for another way to criticize black culture and bring attention to himself rather than genuine outrage because why wouldn't he bring up the dog fighting? The actual animal cruelty is far worse than some words in a song. Make all the excuses you want for DMX but who ever traumatized him probably made the same excuses too.

~~jwb~~ · 04-15-2021, 03:12 PM

Exactly.. dmx was far from perfect and I'm more than willing to address that. But the selected lyrics are being taken out of context and blown out of proportion for manufactured controversy and retweets. He died and so twitter is like wait! We forgot to cancel him for what he said about homo thugs in 2003! How did we miss this?

Cause you were too busy watching eminem dance with Elton John to make good for his own homophobic lyrics which were much more explicitly targeted at homosexuals than DMXs were. But he got pressure put on him and so he danced with Elton John. Maybe if you called to ask dmx when he was still alive he could've redeemed himself but you missed the boat so instead let's just hijack his death for woke points.

~~jwb~~ · 04-15-2021, 03:18 PM

Also...

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Originally Posted by Frownland

jwb would never be racist. He lives right next to black people, I'd like to see you try to do something so scary.

I think I'm one of the few white people here who will actually admit to being somewhat racist

I never pretended to be the paragon of perfect leftness so I have no need to defend that title

04-15-2021, 01:26 PM	#6007 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Also... "You'll give him a pass cause he's black" is quite literally the standard conservative "white guilt" talking point. Good one, Hannity.

04-15-2021, 03:12 PM	#6009 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Exactly.. dmx was far from perfect and I'm more than willing to address that. But the selected lyrics are being taken out of context and blown out of proportion for manufactured controversy and retweets. He died and so twitter is like wait! We forgot to cancel him for what he said about homo thugs in 2003! How did we miss this? Cause you were too busy watching eminem dance with Elton John to make good for his own homophobic lyrics which were much more explicitly targeted at homosexuals than DMXs were. But he got pressure put on him and so he danced with Elton John. Maybe if you called to ask dmx when he was still alive he could've redeemed himself but you missed the boat so instead let's just hijack his death for woke points.