The Rest in Peace Thread (RIP)

[The Identity Matrix]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm surprised you've never heard anyone say this. Sometimes he was alright, but more often than not for me his voice existed in an awkward spot where it was too bombastic to hit me with gut-level emotion yet not bombastic enough to be interesting.

Hmm... Quite the opposite for me. I found Kurt's voice to be fairly grating and underdeveloped which hurt the raw emotion that he packed in his songwriting. I don't mean polished though... You don't need polish or excellent production to grab me as a vocalist. Chris Cornell I feel is actually a good example of that.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix

Hmm... Quite the opposite for me. I found Kurt's voice to be fairly grating and underdeveloped which hurt the raw emotion that he packed in his songwriting. I don't mean polished though... You don't need polish or excellent production to grab me as a vocalist. Chris Cornell I feel is actually a good example of that.

I'm not a huge Kurt Cobain fan or anything. I just mentioned him because he was part of the conversation. Truth be told, I'm hard pressed to think of a grunge vocalist I like less Chris Cornell.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm not a huge Kurt Cobain fan or anything. I just mentioned him because he was part of the conversation. Truth be told, I'm hard pressed to think of a grunge vocalist I like less Chris Cornell.

Just as an OT aside what defined an artist as grunge? Seems like a fairly loose category to encompass Nirvana and Soundgarden.

[The Identity Matrix]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Just as an OT aside what defined an artist as grunge? Seems like a fairly loose category to encompass Nirvana and Soundgarden.

It just was a tag to describe a scene, not a genre. Grunge is not a style of music, but a way to market bands out of the Seattle scene from the late eighties and early nineties as well as bands trying for a similar sound, see The Stone Temple Pilots.

[Mondo Bungle]

It's music that sounds the way the word "grunge" would suggest

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Just as an OT aside what defined an artist as grunge? Seems like a fairly loose category to encompass Nirvana and Soundgarden.

I agree. I always saw it as more of a marketing term than anything else. Basically, in the early to mid 90s if you played rock music that was sort of gritty and you were from Seattle, you were grunge. Also if you weren't from Seattle but you played rock music that was sort of gritty and couldn't be easily defined as punk, metal, 80s college rock, or a few other things, you'd probably be considered grunge.

[The Identity Matrix]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

I agree. I always saw it as more of a marketing term than anything else. Basically, in the early to mid 90s if you played rock music that was sort of gritty and you were from Seattle, you were grunge. Also if you weren't from Seattle but you played rock music that was sort of gritty and couldn't be easily defined as punk, metal, 80s college rock, or a few other things, you'd probably be considered grunge.

Think of it like nu-metal. Its not a style of music, just a loose descriptor to market bands from the late 90s early 00s.

[Mondo Bungle]

it sounds like mud

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix

Think of it like nu-metal. Its not a style of music, just a loose descriptor to market bands from the late 90s early 00s.

That's what I'm saying.

[The Identity Matrix]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

That's what I'm saying.

Sorry meant to quote stephen again.