Is Man Inherently evil? (Religious, quote, history, Ching, teacher)

Sweet Jane · 04-03-2005, 07:14 PM

Oi, watch it, that sounded personal

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-03-2005, 07:17 PM

I couldn`t possibly comment i`ve never seen you

Sweet Jane · 04-03-2005, 07:20 PM

Obviously, but it still sounded mean

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-03-2005, 07:22 PM

Most things I say usually do , doesn`t mean they are though.

I prefer to use the term straight to the point

Trauma · 04-03-2005, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Most things I say usually do , doesn`t mean they are though.

I prefer to use the term straight to the point

that little winking face is inherently evil, I'm telling you.

Ensemble · 04-03-2005, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xEmochicKx

Ok so I have to do a debate in class and the topic is:
"Is Man Inherently Evil?"
So yah i really need good arguments cause i have to beat this ****ing guy in my class haha..were always in competition!..Not that i really care but he jsut makes me so mad!

I think we're inherently greedy.

jibber · 04-03-2005, 10:22 PM

^ greedy is usually just a label to describe our primal survival instincts. Although for most people the modern world is no longer a "kill or be killed" type of environment (at least in the literal sense), we still have those primal instints that materialise in our behavior towards each other.

Zealious · 04-04-2005, 05:56 PM

I side with Thomas Hobbes on this one.

Sneer · 04-04-2005, 06:28 PM

ok, my argument is evil no, "naughty" (for want of a better word) yes. we behave nicely because it is social desirability- we all want to fit in with the social spectrum. however, every single being on earth has the deep, "evil" temptations- you know, "knicking the bike lying on the side of the road", "taking that fiver on the kitchen table" or "punching that wankers face in". we have to repress these desires yet they are always there. these desires are of course enhanced by factors such as TV but they are inherently there. they may not all be evil- but they certainly are not good. to me, a lot of time it seems asif im actually holding back a lot of anger and frustration and i just want to let it all out.

jibber · 04-04-2005, 06:31 PM

^ True, but the way I see it, the fact that we repress them is more relevant than the fact that we have these urges in the first place. We should be judged on our actions, not on our first instincts. I think the fact that we do restrain ourselves, that we act in a way that is for the common good rather than on our own selfish desires proves a lot.

04-03-2005, 07:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
Sweet Jane Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 547	Oi, watch it, that sounded personal __________________ Calvin: "Do you believe in the devil? You know, a supreme evil being dedicated to the temptation, corruption, and destruction of man?" Hobbes: "I'm not sure that man needs the help."

04-03-2005, 07:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I couldn`t possibly comment i`ve never seen you __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

04-03-2005, 07:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sweet Jane Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 547	Obviously, but it still sounded mean __________________ Calvin: "Do you believe in the devil? You know, a supreme evil being dedicated to the temptation, corruption, and destruction of man?" Hobbes: "I'm not sure that man needs the help."

04-03-2005, 07:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Most things I say usually do , doesn`t mean they are though. I prefer to use the term straight to the point __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

04-03-2005, 10:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,536	^ greedy is usually just a label to describe our primal survival instincts. Although for most people the modern world is no longer a "kill or be killed" type of environment (at least in the literal sense), we still have those primal instints that materialise in our behavior towards each other. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

04-04-2005, 05:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
Zealious Skeptic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 375	I side with Thomas Hobbes on this one.

04-04-2005, 06:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	ok, my argument is evil no, "naughty" (for want of a better word) yes. we behave nicely because it is social desirability- we all want to fit in with the social spectrum. however, every single being on earth has the deep, "evil" temptations- you know, "knicking the bike lying on the side of the road", "taking that fiver on the kitchen table" or "punching that wankers face in". we have to repress these desires yet they are always there. these desires are of course enhanced by factors such as TV but they are inherently there. they may not all be evil- but they certainly are not good. to me, a lot of time it seems asif im actually holding back a lot of anger and frustration and i just want to let it all out. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

04-04-2005, 06:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,536	^ True, but the way I see it, the fact that we repress them is more relevant than the fact that we have these urges in the first place. We should be judged on our actions, not on our first instincts. I think the fact that we do restrain ourselves, that we act in a way that is for the common good rather than on our own selfish desires proves a lot. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER