Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1071441)

This is coming from the guy stirring the Banned thread up?

:rofl:

Sorry man I can't take what you said seriously after the posts you were putting in that thread. So now that the drama is over we should get back to music discussion? Or are you just bored of it finally?

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1071458)

One thing is clear after the events of the last 3-4 days: people aren't posting. They just aren't, I can't explain exactly why, but it's happening.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1071459)

It's just a slump that's going on. it will pick up at a later date.

the forum's activity level goes up and down at times.

Not sure why a certain members keep going around screaming the sky is falling when it's not that bad.

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1071461)

I know that, I didn't claim the sky was falling. I just said that most of what boozin posted was true, and that there was no reason for Vanilla to try and call him out him for it.

Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1071464)

I called him out as a joke man. He's the one always joking around in those drama threads, so it was my turn.

The place is fine, maybe it's good that it's quiet, people need to calm down from the drama from certain members - most of which was unnecessary. Me included.

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1071469)

Not how I read it.

Not how I see it.

Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1071446)

I wasn't trying to be a bitch, I was just saying it was weird you of all people saying get back to the music. I agree with what you're saying. I know you contribute to the music forums, as do I. No one needs to prove anything. :)

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1071448)

i only participated in the banned thread cos the more, the merrier

you know how seriously I take this forum

Thee Virgin is also quite butthurt by my comments on the "Coming Out" thread

Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1071471)

Ok that's cool, I don't want to encourage anymore arguments so I'll just leave you to your opinion. :)

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1071473)

I think you were but its cool..you can, I wont cry....to much. I enjoy reading the banned thread and may be guilty..ok...guilty of getting a little to caught up in it sometimes. At first I thought Dirty getting banned was out of line but after more information was gathered and I knew his take on the issue. I really didnt care about the whole situation from that point on, which was very early on on in that thread. I had nothing to do with what took place with the rest of the drama other than my occasional comment or two making light of the situation. I think some people may not realize when im being sarcastic and when im serious because I dont always specify. 99% of the time im making a joke about everything going on even when people get angry with me I usually blow it off.
The argument that took place with "The Virgins" coming out thread was something I was serious about. The reasons for me initially posting in there were with genuine concern and I think most would agree who are up to speed with what was said. Now..should I have not jumped the gun with assuming the worst? Yes...but given the history of remarks that he has been known to say I reacted out of conceren for the well being of the potential victims in that case. I apologize for jumping to conclusions and nothing still has been proved either way but just for the sake of not prolonging it anymore than it has already been drug out, I'll take the brunt of the blame for that thread spiraling out of control. The back and forth that went on between me and him after the initial accusations were just more observations that me and a number of other MB users have noticed him doing. I never insulted him, I simply stated what I thought he was doing throughout the forum on a daily basis. Finally lost interest and stopped posting in the thread and checked it 4 hours later and the drama had unfolded. Point is my initial reasons for posting in there were with very good intentions and I think you , along with others would agree.
Most the time I find humor in anything but I dont think with the history given with him there should have been anything left to chance. If I jumped the gun thats my bad, but I'd rather it turn out to not be what I thought it was than to have let it go unnoticed for an unknown length of time when it could've been solved from the get go. In future instances ill go about it in a different way but im not sorry for the moral standard I have. I would like to think that even the most dark and twisted of people wouldnt find humor or over look something of that nature. I can make a joke out of just about anything but I think thats where you draw the line.

Hopefully that will clarify things a little for you and shed some light on things. Im sure it is hard to take me seriously cause most the time im making light of the drama that unfolds and not really doing anything to help resolve it and the one actual exception was yesterday with the "coming out" thread where I actually took something to heart that I thought was unacceptable.
All and all I think the community of Mb can be fun and insightful musicly as well as just a place to act goofy...like in the lounge.
The mods do a good job for the most part and im partial to some more than others but ill keep that to myself. Like anywhere else with anything there will be suckups so even if I do think a lot of a particular mod I try not to let it show too much. Cause ther are obvious suck ups here and I wouldnt want to fall into that, at the end of the day its just a music forum and I should as much as anybody else try to remember that.

I was going to comment but I'll just let it pass for now.

Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1071477)

It's all good, I wasn't judging you, just confused based on the banned thread.

Nothing wrong with joking around with people, as long as they know that! :D

You're right, it's a music forum and we need to make sure that is obvious. I have been trying to push that point on people as well.

There's always going to be people that suck up, but it's great when people just have a personality for themselves you know?

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1071478)

Ha ha...yes...people should be able to have a personality for themselves yes I get it. Hey I volunteer myself for pun all the time on here.....I was thinking of having an MB spelling contest...I think I would win..no?

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1071473)

The argument that took place with "The Virgins" coming out thread was something I was serious about. The reasons for me initially posting in there were with genuine concern and I think most would agree who are up to speed with what was said. Now..should I have not jumped the gun with assuming the worst? Yes...but given the history of remarks that he has been known to say I reacted out of conceren for the well being of the potential victims in that case. I apologize for jumping to conclusions and nothing still has been proved either way but just for the sake of not prolonging it anymore than it has already been drug out, I'll take the brunt of the blame for that thread spiraling out of control. The back and forth that went on between me and him after the initial accusations were just more observations that me and a number of other MB users have noticed him doing. I never insulted him, I simply stated what I thought he was doing throughout the forum on a daily basis. Finally lost interest and stopped posting in the thread and checked it 4 hours later and the drama had unfolded. Point is my initial reasons for posting in there were with very good intentions and I think you , along with others would agree.
Most the time I find humor in anything but I dont think with the history given with him there should have been anything left to chance. If I jumped the gun thats my bad, but I'd rather it turn out to not be what I thought it was than to have let it go unnoticed for an unknown length of time when it could've been solved from the get go. In future instances ill go about it in a different way but im not sorry for the moral standard I have. I would like to think that even the most dark and twisted of people wouldnt find humor or over look something of that nature. I can make a joke out of just about anything but I think thats where you draw the line.

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1071461)

I know that, I didn't claim the sky was falling. I just said that most of what boozin posted was true, and that there was no reason for Vanilla to try and call him out him for it.

Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1071471)

Ok that's cool, I don't want to encourage anymore arguments so I'll just leave you to your opinion. :)

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1071480)

Oh and Dj, stop sucking up...unlesss of course your joking then nevermind.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1071526)

She was teasing him because he's always up in the drama threads joking around and instigating

Now you see how it feels when people don't get your jokes and think you are being serious lol :rofl:

I was joking but even if I wasn't. I'll suck up to whoever I want to whenever I want to.

Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1071477)

It's all good, I wasn't judging you, just confused based on the banned thread.

Nothing wrong with joking around with people, as long as they know that! :D

You're right, it's a music forum and we need to make sure that is obvious. I have been trying to push that point on people as well.

There's always going to be people that suck up, but it's great when people just have a personality for themselves you know?

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1071535)

OK, I get it. You take the females side in any argument or disagreement, it's a cheap way to gain favor, but whatever works for you.

Truth is, you are sucking up. Whether it's to the mods or almost every female on this site, you just kiss ass constantly. I know you want to get along with everyone, but damn dude.

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1071503)

of course I'll side with you and think your concerns are justified

what prompted me to join in that thread, is the funny fact that Thee Virgin, as a gay man, is behaving towards straights in a manner he doesn't want gays to be treated by straights

i don't feel as if gays should be given any special treatment, here, or anywhere else - it's not a disablity or some sort of Messianic power given by God

i mean i'm bi myself, i don't expect straights to wait on me, hand and foot, and succumb to every little whimsy i embark upon - i expect the normal treatment, as straights and gays get, and if a straight is pissed wth my advances, i know how to back off

and of coz, as mentioned in the "Coming Out" thread before it was closed, Thee Virgin is always talking about equality of "sexual preference", as if it's a God-given right, and then he pisses all over race and gender - blacks are "monkeys" who like taking it up the ass and all vaginas are disgusting - c'mon isn't a vagina where he came from?

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1070738)

Seriously who is that in your avy?







Anyway so after all the drama since Dirtys ban and the banned thread spiraling out of control. MB seems to be pretty lifeless now and kind of seperated? Just wondering if anyone else had noticed or not but I guess thats the way its suppose to be and at least the mods can have a moment to catch they're breath before the next mb premadonna ignites the drama fire again with a ban. I never really took any of it seriously cause it really doesnt matter if you do or not. I know where both sides are coming from though and how something could escalade out of control like it did. In all actuality I dont have a problem with the rules and I dont even think Dirty honestly gives a **** about the ban he got.(not implying that he doesnt still want to be a member...just that its not worth arguing about) All and all its just something to make a joke about but again others seem to be more passionate about it than I. This is how I view it.....................

1. What Dirty did was funny but he knew the consequences
2. Dirty getting banned was funny as well
3. People getting upset about it and declaring war on the mods a lil funny
4. The mods growing tired of it and threating banning anyone for anything...whether that was serious or not it was funny
5. How the whole thing was yesterdays news and of no significance now

Whatever rules the mods want to enforce is what ill live with and dont give a **** one way or the other. Doesnt mean im all up on their jock but at the end of the day truth be told I dont have a problem with them. Im not the majority though and my opinion on this forum means about as much as "The Virgins" no pun intended though dude.
There are some mods im more fond of than others but im sure everyone has their favs as well. I would like to see some of them that use to post their knowledge in the music sections of the forum start posting again. Ive noticed a decline all around from everyone posting in music threads and maybe thats part of the problem. As much as the drama is entertaining and funny I also like to see quality music posts as much as anyone else does. Thats doesnt mean im stressing that people should stop posting in the lounge but maybe a little bit more effort to participate in some music sections wouldnt hurt. Fact is there are just not many posting about music so I think thats deffering some of the attention from what it could be contributing to, and channeling it towards other areas maybe? More so than what usually goes on, on here anyway as of late imo. Anyway im just rambling and it doesnt mean **** to anyone anyway so meh

Just thought I would add that ive heard some really impressive tracks from some members on here that they have volunterily shared. Maybe if your more inclined to showing or sharing what you can do musicly you should join in with us. I for one make it a point to encourage and compliment those who's music I've taken a liking to in hopes that maybe that could evolve into a regular thing and they continue to share what they do. I think the song comp is over but maybe we could have some kind of monthly theme song comp or something to that effect? If anyone else is interested or has some ideas maybe run it by one of the mods or a more established member than myself and maybe we can figure something out. Just an idea

Originally Posted by The Virgin (Post 1071568)

i'm not really a broody type of person and i have no intention of discussing anything further with you guys cause obviously the rest of the people here are your friends and fortunately for you, those people hate me as well, but feel free to counter every post, thread, opinion that i make. i know someday, it may not be me, someone's gonna sting you the way you did to me.

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1071578)

huh? I don't hate you

you just rub me up the wrong way

nobody hates you - hate is too strong a word for Internet "electronic ghosts"

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1071578)

huh? I don't hate you

you just rub me up the wrong way

nobody hates you - hate is too strong a word for Internet "electronic ghosts"

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1071581)

lol that's not even true. The amount of times that he gets picked on sometimes warranted but sometimes unwarranted is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1071585)

i don't really see any true "hate" for him - they're all mostly reactionary statements to the idiotic statements he makes, then he'll get defensive, then he'll act butthurt

if there is even any semblance of hate, it's momentary only during the duration of the comment, and the aftermath

Originally Posted by The Virgin (Post 1071590)

idiotic statements. ha!
any opinion that i make which doesn't suite or on parallel to any member's opinion here are considered idiotic.
ironically, on my side of the story, when i see an opinion not the same as with mine, or if i feel like they're kind of stupid, i don't go out and post to their comments saying "hey, that post is just stupid". cause i think of it as an "insult", or do we have different definitions of what an 'insult' is? another favourite topic of ya'll here, my vocabulary.

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1071637)

i don't think so - you don't use any common sense before you post

and common sense is universal

and race and sexual preference is not a factor to me - i'm not prejudicial in the slightest but i'm not really the world's most PC person

if you post dumb comments, then you post dumb comments, whether you're green, purple, makes love to sunflowers, etc

Originally Posted by The Virgin (Post 1071638)

agree. agree.
i'm sorry for sometimes bursting your bubbles and this goes out to the rest as well.
my apologies...

hehe..makes love to sunflowers. that's really funny..lol

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1071642)

err wateva - silly mind games again

well enjoy yourself, anyway

(some people just can't live without the internet, it seems, truth is, i can walk away from this forum anyday and won't feel much - geez!)

Originally Posted by The Virgin (Post 1071652)

hehe..agree... some people just can't live without internet.
it's good thing that both of us know better that we should have control as far as our emotions are concerned when dealing with things on the internet. right?

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1071700)

huh? did ya know I am a paranoid schizophrenic?

i'm under heavy medication so I'm emotionless most of the time

Originally Posted by The Virgin (Post 1071703)

oh. that's a bit sad. hope you'd get over it soon though.
hehe... never thought of that actually since you mentioned it...
don't take too much medication or drugs though to keep you from being a paranoid schizophrenic.

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1071706)

it's a lifetime disease

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1071526)

I was joking but even if I wasn't. I'll suck up to whoever I want to whenever I want to.

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072180)

Wuuuhuuu easy tough guy dont get your panties in a bunch. I dont think you are joking but say what you will and suck up to whomever you want cause I know you going to. The same ones that you cry about all the time and then jump for joy when they happen to feel the same way that you do about a particular topic.

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072180)

Make no mistake though its not that your Mr. Cool and popular as much as its just an anti me thing so dont go thinking to highly of yourself there Mr. Popularity.

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072180)

At least Vanilla approached me and straight up stated what she thought to me (as opposed to griping about me in other threads or indirectly) and imo that makes her twice the man you are.

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072180)

I honestly think you just like to state your opinion just for the sake of hearing yourself type sometimes and wonder if you believe half the things that you come up with. You claim that you have a problem with the way the mods do things but honestly in your case I think if everything was perfect you would gripe about that just to have something to talk about. If you are serious about your issues with the mods and stated it in the banned thread months ago the reason nobody payed attention to what you said was probally because you NEVER stop talking.

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072180)

There isnt a thread on MB that you dont consider yourself to be an expert on and constantly place yourself on this imaginery pedastal of higher than high. You say I instigate but you constantly worry about what others do but im not trying to hide the fact that drama's intersting to me. It must be interesting to you cause you would argue that the sky was red if I was looking at it while it was blue. Like the Paris Hilton and Jessica Simpson thing? You really think they are smart intelligent buisness women or is that just something for you to argue about?

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072180)

You think "The Virgin" getting all the flack that he catches isnt warranted but...yes it is and I think its just another gate thats open for you to argue for the sake of arguing.

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072180)

Its not just a few things that you feel passionate about like most people...you make your presence known in every thread there is if you think its a highly trafficed thread or topic. How does one come to be an expert on so many topics by the way? Did you go to school at a premier college for 8 years and get a bachelors degree in B.S.? Ive never once heard you say that you dont know or your not familiar with that or would have to look into it, its always you laying it out there that this is they way it is cause you say so. Its not just me you do this all the time to different people and I just wonder how one gets to be so knowledgeable?

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072180)

Could you tell me the meaning of life real quick while were at it?

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072180)

Also you do suck up to the women members if you think they will give you the time of day. Im not saying its not your right but dont pretend that you dont dude cause you do. The reason im sure that you argue with so many is that after you realize they arent interested in you in the way you want them to be, you become deffensive and standoffish as if they were'nt in your league anyway. Really? lol...ok.

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072180)

Then you state that you dont care anyway...well then why do you make such a concious effort to talk to every female and engage in conversation? This could be that your just happy to have someone to talk to but you dont go out of your way as much to talk with males unless its to offer your expertise or argue something.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1072304)

what are you talking about? Do you have examples about this that i'm not aware of? Why would i jump for joy when they feel the same way about a particular topic when i have a pretty good idea that they still hate me/make fun of me behind the scenes on a constant basis to the point that they have dj'isms?



Do you honestly think i care about being popular and online of all places? You couldn't be more off base. If i really cared about this so called popularity that you think i do then i'd be more diplomatic about the things that i say but if i have an opinion , i will state it even if it's an unpopular opinion and you know this.



Thanks for insulting me. Much appreciated.




No, they paid attention to what i said but it was brushed off pretty much because of the way that i stated it and people weren't ready to hear what i was saying or maybe they didn't understand it and that's my fault. I could have been more clear about it or went about it in a different way. I jumped the gun a bit.



I don't even claim to be an expert on everything as much as you follow my posts you obviously don't read them properly. If i have an opinion , i will state said opinion. I know that some of my opinions aren't based in facts and that's because i don't know everything like you seem to have an issue with. Just because i don't know all the facts of a certain topic doesn't mean i'm not allowed to share my opinion on a more personal level of what i think it means even without having all the facts.
So i'm not allowed to have an opinion that's out of the norm? Why is society this way? If you don't express the same mundane opinion that the flock of sheep express then you are outcasted for it. This is what happens with the virgin.



Reading comprehension my friend. I said that some of the things he says goes over the line and i understand why people get on him about it but sometimes he will say something that isn't even bad and people will be all over his **** just because of bullshit that he said int he past related to something completely different. That's what is unwarranted imo.



As i said earlier, you see my posts but you obviously don't read them. I have talked about things and asked for people to correct me if i'm wrong or provide me with more information but i guess you never see that.:rolleyes:

Why is it such a bad fucking thing to seek knowledge and to like the acquisition of it?



Sure, i can. It's 42. Don't say i never did anything for you.



This might be some weird defense mechanism that i have towards being rejected. Maybe it's something i should work on but if i get rejected why should i go around moping about it and cry myself to sleep? I rather go the opposite direction and build myself back up instead of going around sad and depressed because some chick over the internet doesn't like me.



Idk what you are talking about. I talk to pretty much everyone. I guess you never see that i talk to your silly ass every morning in the irc. Unless you are really a female that went through an operation or something. I can't believe you'd fix your mouth to say something so absurd when i talk to everyone especially in the irc.

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072310)

k.

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1072307)

truth is - i have no problems with The Virgin if he just used some common sense before posting anything

most of my insults are in the zeitgeist of this board, i do have somewhat a herd mentality

Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1072310)

k.

Originally Posted by The Virgin (Post 1072313)

what a short response. hehe
a sign of losing a debate.

Originally Posted by The Virgin (Post 1072313)

me too, i have no problems with you El Duce..hehe... i don't mind your silly, stupid posts..



what a short response. hehe
a sign of losing a debate.