Ma Cherie

it ashame that he died but i hope that he gains all grace he needs to be allowwed to stand with the saints and the angel before the good Lord may he rest in peace

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Fenixpunk

The pope who was anti abortion, anti womens' rights, homophobic, and anti contraception amongst other things.. an excellent leader? Im not ashamed, you should be for condoning such "leadership" in the year 2005.

1. the pope was polish so Rome could keep power over Poland when it became communist..

2. the pope didnt even admit to the holocaust until 6 years ago!!!

True, he may have had certain "liberal" views--opposing the imperialist war/occupation in Iraq, speaking in support of the Palestinians, etc., but he constantly contradicted himself (i.e. saying the Israel is superior to the Palestinians, as well as not disputing the Israeli apartheid government's legitimacy). It is also worth mentioning that, while he opposed the war in Iraq, he supported the overtly reactionary ideals of the politicians who initiated it.
He also opposed "liberation theology" (or ideology?)--the idea that religion could be taught/practiced from an anti-authoritarian perspective. For this reason, he was opposed to the Quakers. The pope and the whole catholic religion for that matter, has some issues. No grief from me on his death.

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Sweet Jane

Screw that, who cares what colour they are, a more liberal pope is all I wanna see, I'll even keep my trap shut about how sexist the whole thing is. There's been at least three black Pope's already in the Church's first 500 years. The main coloured candidate is Nigerian, Cardinal Francis Arinze, who also holds conservative views on contraception and family issues. I want to see Cardinal Godfried Danneels of Brussels, the most liberal of serious contenders who hasd already urged the Vatican to allow women to hold posts normally taken by cardinals and said that condoms can be used in the fight against Aids. Seeing as there are currently 39.4 million people living with HIV globally and every day as many as 1,300 children die from HIV and Aids-related illnesses across the world I think thats gonna be a step in the right direction.

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Tommyrocker

once i see this as a fact with hardcore evidence, then i'll believe it.

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ladyluckrules

children die every 3 seconds unnecisserally

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Sneer

it makes sense because of the vastness of africa and asia- which both have big cathoilic numbers. plus you've got south america (presume thats not included).

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Tommyrocker

I swear in RS we learnt they wernt christian. also, there is noooo way White America and Europe is outnumbered in Catholism (is that the right suffix?)

More importantly - stu - msn boy. im quite clearly bored

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Ma Cherie

The pope was still a very GOOD man think of the people whose lives were saved because of the charity he comanded., abortion is wrong in its own right because why kill babies unessicerily when there are people to adopt them, besisde it increase the risk of dying by 37% and complications when you want to have children later!!.

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Sneer

think we've established he was a good man.

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