What is happening with MB?

Paedantic Basterd · 12-30-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

What you have said is spot on and I do hope that is the case but I have this feeling that MB will never be what it was and will never be.

Of course it won't be what it was, because the population is ever changing, but what says that different can't be just as good? There will not be another Right Track or Big3, nor would you want one if you got one, because the reason users like these are meaningful to you is because they are one of a kind. The ticket is to acknowledge this, and then be open to all the different kinds of irreplaceable users that are certain to come through here.

I found it difficult for a long time not to take it personally that every forum I ever joined was "dying". It's hard not to be disappointed by the fact that the community you're trying to be a part of is too busy missing other people to recognize the value in new contributors, but I have come to realize that this is a constant, and not a result of my joining at a bad time, or worse: causing the problem.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 12-31-2010, 12:35 AM

Hope not... I've only been here like three months.

Dotoar · 12-31-2010, 01:01 AM

And I've only been for a few days, more eager than ever to spew out reviews and essays and whatnots. Don't tell me the party's already over!

clutnuckle · 12-31-2010, 01:33 AM

A lot of threads I've seen these days are self-congratulatory, riding completely on shock value that merit absolutely no real discussion. Now albeit, I'm a fairly new member myself, but I couldn't help but notice. It's not an issue with the people; they clearly feel like talking, but what they're discussing doesn't really offer many retorts. The conversations that we have over overratedness or how silly 'real life' people's opinions on music are can only go on for so long before dying. Not like I feel I can 'save' the website myself, but putting a bit more effort into perpetuating discussion rather than giving temporary laughter is a lot more vital to a forum.

Have no idea what to say about the journals, as I don't think I've set foot in there before. I've brought the obvious horse to water but I don't really know how to make it drink.

Guybrush · 12-31-2010, 08:18 AM

I think the site has improved in many ways since I got here so I don't think that the site may be changing in a negative way overall. Sometimes I look at really old threads and I think "man, that crap would not have happened now". Still, a lot of the people that I like on the site and like to read the posts of have or are disappearing. I'm not sure why this is. Maybe when some people leave, the people who like to read their posts feel more incined to leave and it's just a bit of a snowball effect affecting some members we're currently seeing.

We are getting new members here to "replace" the old. New good members. Just recently, I've noticed the positive presence of Dotoar, MrD00d and Lisnaholic which have all joined up within the last month I believe. I hope they will all become regular contributors on the site.

So, I think it's mostly a problem of friends leaving rather than the whole site going down the drain. That's not to say there are not problems with the site. I think it rewards short litter posts in quick and easy threads like the spam threads way too much while the worthwhile reads don't get noticed often enough, but this is a problem that should be addressed by changing the site design or perhaps community events that rewards good writers etc. rather than bitching at people for not getting involved. These problems have been here all along and are not new, though.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-31-2010, 10:48 AM

5 Annoyances As To Why I Don't Post Here As Much As I Used To

1. Too many Youtube videos, not enough discussion.
How about you say what you like about a band in a few sentences & offer a few opinions on them instead of posting about an hours worth of videos from said band that nobody will watch.

2. People who excessively posts comedy gifs, stupid pictures & internet memes
By all means do it in the games/jokes forum, and I guess the lounge to a lesser extent. But if you keep doing it in the music forum that automatically makes you a prick in my book.

3. Same Old Same Old
I can't remember the last time someone listened to something out of their comfort zone & actually wrote something interesting about it

4. Shoutbox People
I've lost count of the number of times the shoutbox regulars get hostile towards somebody because someone new in there dares to have a conversation that may not involve them. It's pretty sickening some of the childish tantrums I've seen thrown in there. I think if the whole thing was scrapped it would actually improve the forum.

5. Lack of interest by Admin
We've had a succession of owners who don't give a shit and the forum looks dated because of it compared to others. Any attempt to modernise or improve by members wanting to make a difference isn't even acknowledged let alone thanked for.
It may have a few more sub forums and the occasional tweak, but other than that this site has less features than it did when I joined in 2004.

And those 5 reasons are pretty much why I no longer have any interest in modding here anymore.

GuitarBizarre · 12-31-2010, 11:03 AM

The talk instruments forum has always been dead. Theres no change there.

Dr_Rez · 12-31-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

The talk instruments forum has always been dead. Theres no change there.

I think You me and Mr Dave account for 95 percent of it. Thats the main reason I log in every day haha.

LoathsomePete · 12-31-2010, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

5 Annoyances As To Why I Don't Post Here As Much As I Used To

1. Too many Youtube videos, not enough discussion.
How about you say what you like about a band in a few sentences & offer a few opinions on them instead of posting about an hours worth of videos from said band that nobody will watch.

2. People who excessively posts comedy gifs, stupid pictures & internet memes
By all means do it in the games/jokes forum, and I guess the lounge to a lesser extent. But if you keep doing it in the music forum that automatically makes you a prick in my book.

3. Same Old Same Old
I can't remember the last time someone listened to something out of their comfort zone & actually wrote something interesting about it

4. Shoutbox People
I've lost count of the number of times the shoutbox regulars get hostile towards somebody because someone new in there dares to have a conversation that may not involve them. It's pretty sickening some of the childish tantrums I've seen thrown in there. I think if the whole thing was scrapped it would actually improve the forum.

5. Lack of interest by Admin
We've had a succession of owners who don't give a shit and the forum looks dated because of it compared to others. Any attempt to modernise or improve by members wanting to make a difference isn't even acknowledged let alone thanked for.
It may have a few more sub forums and the occasional tweak, but other than that this site has less features than it did when I joined in 2004.

And those 5 reasons are pretty much why I no longer have any interest in modding here anymore.

You and I think as one, we're like two horses together in a harness.

zachsd · 12-31-2010, 04:16 PM

I'm very much a newbie, but I've been more or less pleased. To be completely honest though, I was expecting somewhat more intelligent, in-depth conversations than the ones I've been having. I don't know if that's my fault though, or the fault of other users. I have to give props to Clutnuckle though, I swear practically every interesting conversation I've had included him.

And the posting of youtube videos is pretty annoying. Especially in the "albums you're digging" thread. Is it really that difficult to post like, two to three sentences about an album you supposedly like so much?

I have to admit though, this site has really expanded my musical horizons. I mean, in the couple of months (I think) I've been here I've been listening to a lot more Krautrock, Jazz, and other genres that I've never really been able to get into. As a tool for discovering new music, I've never met a website as effective as music banter.

12-31-2010, 01:01 AM	#13 (permalink)
Dotoar Supernatural anaesthetist Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Örebro, Sweden Posts: 436	And I've only been for a few days, more eager than ever to spew out reviews and essays and whatnots. Don't tell me the party's already over! __________________ - More is more -

12-31-2010, 08:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I think the site has improved in many ways since I got here so I don't think that the site may be changing in a negative way overall. Sometimes I look at really old threads and I think "man, that crap would not have happened now". Still, a lot of the people that I like on the site and like to read the posts of have or are disappearing. I'm not sure why this is. Maybe when some people leave, the people who like to read their posts feel more incined to leave and it's just a bit of a snowball effect affecting some members we're currently seeing. We are getting new members here to "replace" the old. New good members. Just recently, I've noticed the positive presence of Dotoar, MrD00d and Lisnaholic which have all joined up within the last month I believe. I hope they will all become regular contributors on the site. So, I think it's mostly a problem of friends leaving rather than the whole site going down the drain. That's not to say there are not problems with the site. I think it rewards short litter posts in quick and easy threads like the spam threads way too much while the worthwhile reads don't get noticed often enough, but this is a problem that should be addressed by changing the site design or perhaps community events that rewards good writers etc. rather than bitching at people for not getting involved. These problems have been here all along and are not new, though. __________________ Something Completely Different

12-31-2010, 10:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	5 Annoyances As To Why I Don't Post Here As Much As I Used To 1. Too many Youtube videos, not enough discussion. How about you say what you like about a band in a few sentences & offer a few opinions on them instead of posting about an hours worth of videos from said band that nobody will watch. 2. People who excessively posts comedy gifs, stupid pictures & internet memes By all means do it in the games/jokes forum, and I guess the lounge to a lesser extent. But if you keep doing it in the music forum that automatically makes you a prick in my book. 3. Same Old Same Old I can't remember the last time someone listened to something out of their comfort zone & actually wrote something interesting about it 4. Shoutbox People I've lost count of the number of times the shoutbox regulars get hostile towards somebody because someone new in there dares to have a conversation that may not involve them. It's pretty sickening some of the childish tantrums I've seen thrown in there. I think if the whole thing was scrapped it would actually improve the forum. 5. Lack of interest by Admin We've had a succession of owners who don't give a shit and the forum looks dated because of it compared to others. Any attempt to modernise or improve by members wanting to make a difference isn't even acknowledged let alone thanked for. It may have a few more sub forums and the occasional tweak, but other than that this site has less features than it did when I joined in 2004. And those 5 reasons are pretty much why I no longer have any interest in modding here anymore. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

12-31-2010, 04:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
zachsd Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 347	I'm very much a newbie, but I've been more or less pleased. To be completely honest though, I was expecting somewhat more intelligent, in-depth conversations than the ones I've been having. I don't know if that's my fault though, or the fault of other users. I have to give props to Clutnuckle though, I swear practically every interesting conversation I've had included him. And the posting of youtube videos is pretty annoying. Especially in the "albums you're digging" thread. Is it really that difficult to post like, two to three sentences about an album you supposedly like so much? I have to admit though, this site has really expanded my musical horizons. I mean, in the couple of months (I think) I've been here I've been listening to a lot more Krautrock, Jazz, and other genres that I've never really been able to get into. As a tool for discovering new music, I've never met a website as effective as music banter. __________________ lastfm rym

12-31-2010, 12:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra \/ GOD Join Date: May 2010 Location: Nowhere... Posts: 2,179	Hope not... I've only been here like three months.

12-31-2010, 01:33 AM	#14 (permalink)
clutnuckle Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: -_-_-_-_~__~-~_-`_`-~_-`-~-~ Posts: 1,276	A lot of threads I've seen these days are self-congratulatory, riding completely on shock value that merit absolutely no real discussion. Now albeit, I'm a fairly new member myself, but I couldn't help but notice. It's not an issue with the people; they clearly feel like talking, but what they're discussing doesn't really offer many retorts. The conversations that we have over overratedness or how silly 'real life' people's opinions on music are can only go on for so long before dying. Not like I feel I can 'save' the website myself, but putting a bit more effort into perpetuating discussion rather than giving temporary laughter is a lot more vital to a forum. Have no idea what to say about the journals, as I don't think I've set foot in there before. I've brought the obvious horse to water but I don't really know how to make it drink.