Hindsight, and an Interesting Side-Effect of Online Forums

[MoonlitSunshine]

So, the topic to this thread is odd, and I may change it before I post it if I think of a better title (in which case this line won't exist... paradox!), but I was having a hard time trying to sum up what it is this thread is about.

I suppose the best way to go about this is to just explain what the hell I'm going on about.

When i saw Tore post his "I'm back" thread, it occured to me that vast majority of users who were here when I first started posting are no longer here, with some notable exceptions, the end result being most active users probably have no clue who on earth this crazy irish person is. I went looking for my original "introduction" thread - which is a barrel of laughs, in itself - but was distracted by a number of other threads that I saw lurking at the bottom of my search. Threads like This. My first reaction was disbelief, then horror. Did I really post like that back in 2006? Was I really that much of a prat only 4 years ago? This question was quickly followed by another: Did I really think like that only four years ago?

Now, I don't know about you all, but whenever I think back on the way I used to think, I (think :P) I used to think in roughly the same manner that I think now. As a result, I can never see how immature I was at any stage, because I always felt mature for my age, and I can't remember how I thought. It's an interesting little problem, to say the least. Before this era of rampant technology, finding out what you were really like a few years ago must have been quite a difficult prospect. But then along came online forums, and regular posting over long periods of time, and WOW did we give ourselves a way of embarrassing ourselves in the future.

I did this same sort of check recently on another forum that I've posted much more regularly on in the last 4 years (though I joined it 6 months after this one), and the effect was much more interesting, due to the continuous posting. I could actually tell what I was doing and where I was not by the timestamp, but simply by the way that i posted. I had thought that I did most of my growing up before I was 17, but it's astonishing looking at exactly how much I've changed as a poster, as a person in these 4 years. And not only that, but how it's been a continuous change over that time. Yeah, there's been an epiphany or two over the time, when i can say "that's when I started really being myself" or "that's when I realised who i really was", but overall, the maturity and the change in my posting has been a gradual process.

The other thing I find interesting is how quickly we lose sight of what it is to be like we once were. Having been a moderator on this other forum for 3 years now, I find it slightly horrifying that I used to post in such a way; were I to see someone posting like that now, I'd be hard pressed not to smack them around the head for posting like a total idiot. And yet, I thought I was mature for my age. That's a scary thought. Was I actually mature for my age, or did I just think I was, and in reality I was just as bad if not worse? Was it that I let loose on the forums because I knew I probably wouldn't meet most of the people I was talking to? If it's the first, I should really apologise to pretty much everyone I knew back then, cause if there's one thing worse than a prat, it's a stuck up prat who thinks he's better than the other prats.

The point of this thread is really in three parts. The first is because I needed to say this, cause I found it so crazy. The second is because I'm interested to see if other people who have posted here over an extended period of time feel the same way about their ancient posts. The third is to ask the people who have been here since the start, How bad was I, really? Did you think I was an alright person, or did I annoy the hell out of all of you?

[TheBig3]

For the second, yes. I'm constantly going "Oh jesus, can we delete this friggen thing?" I mean, I was a class A **** for the first 1.5 to 2 years. Part of that is still me, I've just learned how on-line forums work and I've gotten to know these people. The other half is, unless you join when you're 30+, you're probably going to do some growing here. I joined when I was 22/23 (not sure) and I can tell you, I wasn't the same person half-year to half-year.

To the third point, most people think they post a lot because they see all of their own posts, but I only see you as a regular character as of recently. Part of this has to do with Avatars. I use user names as a secondary identifier, and only after I don't recognize the avatar. Its probably advantageous for new users to keep the same avatar for a year at least. As for the people who change their user names, I just give up on trying to get to know them. Its a hassle for me and I don't give enough of a crap.

What I've learned in my time here is that two people can be highly active users, but if their interests don't cross paths, they may never see one another. I'll sometimes walk across two members have a conversation in a thread, one I know, one I don't and think "who is this ****ing guy?"

I had more of an idea of who you were because you put your actual country in your little bio on the left there and that helps. When people put this stupid **** like "right behind you!" and "a dark and lonely place" its just an assimilator. You become just another number who's done that for god knows what reason.

[James]

I looked like an immature twat in my early posts, like even more than I do now.

[MoonlitSunshine]

heh yeah, my avatar is something I've never really changed, on any forum I've used. On other forums, partially because the name I used was so ridiculous that my gf recently told me that someone had referred to me as "The Scary Dragon Mod with a name I can't pronounce"

I just find it so interesting just how much we can change without realising it. I remember why physics teacher once saying that as a race, we don't perceive levels of sound, but rather changes in amplitude. At the time, I found it an interesting little piece of relatively useless information, but over time I think i've realised just how much it applies to everything. Mankind is an adaptive race; we adapt quickly to our surroundings without much difficulty, but there are side-effects to this that I don't think we notice. We forget, so quickly, what we were like before the adaptation. We forget how things were, which is why we repeat our mistakes over and over, we forget who we were, which is why we can chastise people for doing things that we did ourselves not too long ago, and I guess that's also why time heals all wounds.

[Scarlett O'Hara]

MLS, I feel exactly the same! I was 16 when I joined, now I'm 23. What an old hag I am now.

I used to be soooo stupid, I thought I was mature and that I knew a lot of things for my age but I didn't! Here is an example thread of mine which shows how young and naive I was:

http://www.musicbanter.com/introduct...-suspense.html

http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/12...e-couples.html

http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/11...unpopular.html

http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/11...ure-fat-2.html

How awful were my thread titles. I have improved big time. I mean nothing beats Man Parts.

Now I realise I've grown up a lot. I've changed in music taste, the variety of music and I am proud of what I listen to. I used to care what other people thought so I followed what people liked. Now I loudly shout from rooftops that even though I'm an avid collector of The Rolling Stones particularly by vinyl, I also love Lady Gaga!

I remember being a real bitch on the forums, it was all about flaming back then, I got into huge fights with other members and funnily enough no one pinned us for it, not one infraction was given. These days I get one for merely hinting an insult. I learned to have attitude through not taking **** from people but at the same time only giving people crap when I'm not being respected, or when they are being just plain stupid.

Interesting fact: I have made 92 threads!

[MoonlitSunshine]

Originally Posted by Vanilla

MLS, I feel exactly the same! I was 16 when I joined, now I'm 23. What an old hag I am now.

I used to be soooo stupid, I thought I was mature and that I knew a lot of things for my age but I didn't! Here is an example thread of mine which shows how young and naive I was:

http://www.musicbanter.com/introduct...-suspense.html

http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/12...e-couples.html

http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/11...unpopular.html

http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/11...ure-fat-2.html

How awful were my thread titles. I have improved big time. I mean nothing beats Man Parts.

Now I realise I've grown up a lot. I've changed in music taste, the variety of music and I am proud of what I listen to. I used to care what other people thought so I followed what people liked. Now I loudly shout from rooftops that even though I'm an avid collector of The Rolling Stones particularly by vinyl, I also love Lady Gaga!

I remember being a real bitch on the forums, it was all about flaming back then, I got into huge fights with other members and funnily enough no one pinned us for it, not one infraction was given. These days I get one for merely hinting an insult. I learned to have attitude through not taking **** from people but at the same time only giving people crap when I'm not being respected, or when they are being just plain stupid.

Interesting fact: I have made 92 threads!

The forum I moderate has.. Threads: 193,157, Posts: 5,197,593, Members: 95,885, Active Members: 4,765 - according to the stats at the bottom. I've always seen this forum as kinda lenient in comparison to what we have to be! I think because MB was that much smaller back then, it was easier for the mods to keep tabs on people, and so they could be more lenient.

This

How awful were my thread titles. I have improved big time. I mean nothing beats Man Parts.

Made me laugh

Regarding Music taste, yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I when I joined this forum, I was reaaaally narrow in what i'd listen to. Nowadays, I'm happy to listen to anything once, no matter what it is, no matter what people say about it.

[Seltzer]

When I look over some of my old posts from '05, I retch in disgust. Especially the ones where I absolutely ripped into anyone who so much as criticised Bruce Dickinson. I'm far too embarrassed to resurrect any of them... was I really that much of a mentally imbalanced twat when I was 16-17?

It's quite normal for people to feel repulsed by facets of their 'foolish' past selves and former perspectives... what differs between people is the period of time over which this happens and how much they choose to retain over time. I know someone who'll probably hate everything he currently stands for in a year's time. It's the incremental growth approach to life vs the clean slate cyclic destruction approach. The difference for us forumers is that, regardless of approach, we have it all documented whether we like it or not

[Paedantic Basterd]

I think I've behaved approximately the same way on the internet since about 2006.

[CanwllCorfe]

I've changed a great deal. I can't believe I used to never leave the Electronica section. My tastes have really gotten more eclectic.

[Janszoon]

I was 30 when I joined and I'm 33 now. I don't think I've changed much except maybe getting crankier. But what do you expect from an old man.