Iraq war - yes or no? (country, quote, history, Inci)

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-12-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by marshmallowmonkey

i try to read non biased stuff.if you read brittish or american papers,a hell of a lot of it is 'his iraqi man,baaaaaad' you dont think about the people who arnt holding wmd's.they arnt all terrorists.

Wow , John Pilger is a member on this forum

marshmallowmonkey · 08-12-2005, 02:36 PM

john pilger?!ahhh!

IamAlejo · 08-12-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

ok how about this, korea has loads of illegal weapons, so does iran, and countless other mid asian countries, does the possesion of illegal weapons really constitute a legitimate reason for an invasion? and about the outcome, i think i've seen enough, tens of thousands killed and countless others injured....for what?
as far as independent research is concerned try some non american ( thus non byass ) newspapers or web sites.....
i applaud you for making a valiant effort but you clearly have no ground to stand on....

Korea won't be messed with because of China. That and that alone. Personally I think the US has made many efforts with its attempts at world police, and now are seeing the results of it's attempt to "help the world" while "policing the world". As for is it a legitimate reason, judging by Hussein's actions in the past, hell yeah it's a legitimate reason. The US has wanted Hussein out of power, and with that reason they had a purpose of going in. I have no problem with anything done, as long as they set things up to help get things going in Iraq. It can't be ditched though.

And your independent research is pathetic. So hypicritical. Isn't calling all American newspapers and websites biased being biased in its own. I'm sure Croatian news is the know-all be-all end-all when it comes to reporting in 100% honesty.

IamAlejo · 08-12-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

hmm...i think you're being way too easy in this argument,check this out: the UN inspectors were supposed to do the inspection yet the united states decided to go forth with the invasion despite there being no aproval from the security council thus making the war illegal by international law...........man, the UN so needs to be dismanteled, it really has no purpose, as i have witnessed first hand during the war in Croatia and their supposed peace keeping mission....please......

Check this out: The UN inspectors were supposed to be doing inspections for years. They had been kicked out of the country, blocked from certain areas, and Hussein pretty much had his way with them.

What other reason would Hussein have to stop the inspectors from going in certain areas? He forgot to pick up the room and was embarressed by it's uncleanliness? Please.

On the UN being dismanteled, I'm iffy about. NATO defenitely needs to go though.

marshmallowmonkey · 08-12-2005, 03:00 PM

i think that china will become bigger than europe,which it has nearly done,then become bigger than usa,then europe and usa will have to collaberate,which will not work as europe was creatd as a balancer for usa.

adidasss · 08-12-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo

As for is it a legitimate reason, judging by Hussein's actions in the past, hell yeah it's a legitimate reason. The US has wanted Hussein out of power, and with that reason they had a purpose of going in.
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say what? so if the US doesn't like a certain world leader they have a reason for going in?! i simply do not understand you, how can you justify any war if it's not defensive?!let me ask you a question...would you go fight in Iraq?

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo

And your independent research is pathetic. So hypicritical. Isn't calling all American newspapers and websites biased being biased in its own. I'm sure Croatian news is the know-all be-all end-all when it comes to reporting in 100% honesty.

i would say that croatian newspapers and television ARE more objective when it comes to Iraq, we don't have any interests in the matter you see...

adidasss · 08-12-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo

Check this out: The UN inspectors were supposed to be doing inspections for years. They had been kicked out of the country, blocked from certain areas, and Hussein pretty much had his way with them.

What other reason would Hussein have to stop the inspectors from going in certain areas? He forgot to pick up the room and was embarressed by it's uncleanliness? Please. .

that fact aside it was up to the UN to give clearance for the war which it did not do, why did the US take it upon itself to resolve the matter when so many countries were against the war? why do you think half the world hates the US? because of Honduras, Chile, Vietnam, Iraq and countless other "incidents"....

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo

On the UN being dismanteled, I'm iffy about. NATO defenitely needs to go though.

i'm of the opposite thinking, i think the UN needs to be dismanteled and NATO to grow stronger, it seems to be the only organisation that can really guarantee peace and take serious action ( like against Serbia when they refused to stop slaughtering Albanians in Kosovo, i just wish they did that in Croatia and Bosnia....but the decision making needs to change )

HomesickAtSpaceCamp · 08-12-2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

hmm...i think you're being way too easy in this argument,check this out: the UN inspectors were supposed to do the inspection yet the united states decided to go forth with the invasion despite there being no aproval from the security council thus making the war illegal by international law...........man, the UN so needs to be dismanteled, it really has no purpose, as i have witnessed first hand during the war in Croatia and their supposed peace keeping mission....please......

No country has to wait for the UN before they do anything. Also the US is one of the powerful out of any of the countries in the UN and they are the top contributers ($$$) to the UN........ so they are, and have not, going to do anything about it.

08-12-2005, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo

*cough* bay of pigs *cough*

yeah but the us didnt get blown up did it....

IamAlejo · 08-12-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pastor of muppets

yeah but the us didnt get blown up did it....

So every President who doesn't get the US blown up is a good President? I mean, I know we've had some good ones, but.....

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marshmallowmonkey i am the cookie monster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the middle of ****ing nowhere Posts: 122	i think that china will become bigger than europe,which it has nearly done,then become bigger than usa,then europe and usa will have to collaberate,which will not work as europe was creatd as a balancer for usa.