The Confessional Thread

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by FETCHER.

I completely understand that and I don't like to judge people either because I know college is hard, I know the job market is seriously declining, I also know having kids young is difficult as my own mother was a single parent of two babies by the time she was 18, I mostly sympathise with these girls/guys unless they were major arseholes to me. I'm finally just beginning to have some self-confidence which was obliterated by these people just for the fun of it. I don't think it's funny to purposefully bring someone down which is why I keep my thoughts to myself.

There's also a massive difference between being unemployed and then not even looking for a job. I think there's a few difference circumstances due to us living so far apart, mainly being our benefit system which is regularly abused by people.

People abuse and misuse our benefit system here as well. There is a term that gets used called Welfare Queens and sure not everyone on welfare is abusing the system in that way but come on having five kids from five different guys and not being able to take care of yourself let alone your children.

[Mojo]

I just recently got out of a job in government customer service for tax credits claimaints, which for anyone who isn't familiar is supposedly there to act as a top-up for low income homes in the UK for anyone who is eligible to claim it.

While I would say 99% of the people I spoke to were genuine and legit, and not at all the kinds of people that fit the stereotype for benefits claimaints, that job certainly teaches you how to hold your tongue and grit your teeth when talking to the other 1%, especially when unemployed partner number five is calling on behalf of the unemployed mother to inform you of the birth of baby number seven to ensure that they are gonna get the money for that kid too, and when asked when the child was born, they inform you it was around half an hour ago and they are calling from the hospital.

You can say what you want about people like this, in criticism or defence, but I learned a lot about what their priorities were.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I think it's a mistake to make a commitment to who you are in life before you've taken any time at all to figure it out. I judge women under 25, especially under 18, who get pregnant. I think people should live a little, have some experiences, learn who they are, and learn how to be a decent person before they end their opportunities and pass all of that confusion on down the line. Does it turn out fine for people? I'm sure it does in many cases. I'm sure many more settle for it and live happily enough. But it's something that can easily be postponed until you've experienced life some, and to skip doing that is, in my opinion, a huge mistake.

On top of that, I really don't think the world needs any more people in it at the moment, for varying political, environmental, and sociological reasons.

I'm sure that you could pick my standpoint apart quite easily from a feminist perspective, but I'm not claiming it's airtight. It is how I feel, however. I judge people, and I am a flawed individual under the judgment of others.

I agree 100%. And I don't know that I am justified in judging someone for having a child at a young age, but I can't help but do it anyway. My mother may not have been a teenager when she had me, but she was definitely not mentally, emotionally, or financially ready to have a child and we have both suffered because of it. So I can't help but let some of my bitterness come to the surface when I see a child use child logic to justify having another child when they're in no way fit to have one at the current time.

[Sansa Stark]

Originally Posted by FETCHER.

I'm not even going to lie, I know where Vanilla is coming from.


I was bullied quite badly throughout school because of my height and weight and when I see those 'popular' girls who thought it was it was absolutely hilarious to make my life nothing but a misery, I get some satisfaction from the fact they're going nowhere in life. Its like karma or something. I don't judge people with kids however that's completely different but if that chick who made me eat lunch alone for weeks gets knocked up then it kinda adds to it.




Anyway people have kids here just for the benefits. These women do not see children the way we do, child birth is not something thy should be taken lightly and if you do not have the money to support your family then don't ****ing start one.



Genuinely sorry if I offend anyone.

You're not offending anyone but you do have to remember that it's ****ed up that women have to be popping out babies just to get benefits, pregnancy is a really traumatic thing to happen to a woman's body so I would hardly think it's nothing. I also don't think it's fair to say that they don't see childbirth in the way that we do, because that, in my opinion assumes that a woman isn't capable of knowing what to do properly with her own uterus. It's no skin off my nose if a woman chooses to get pregnant, I mean, I ain't her baby daddy, I don't have to pay child support, so wtf ever? I think it's especially cruel to judge these women in a world like we are currently living in, that (some of, not all) these women have such low self esteem that they think their only way of surviving is popping out a kid, rather than using their brains. That's not worthy of vitriol to me, that genuinely makes me sad.

However, even if you were bullied, you don't take it out on other people (clearly) and you learned from it and stand up for other people who are being picked on, so it's totally different. That was my whole point in general, you learned from your experiences and don't try to hurt other people for no reason just to puff yourself up. That's whats ****ed up in my opinion.

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by Hermione

However, even if you were bullied, you don't take it out on other people (clearly) and you learned from it and stand up for other people who are being picked on, so it's totally different. That was my whole point in general, you learned from your experiences and don't try to hurt other people for no reason just to puff yourself up. That's whats ****ed up in my opinion.

You aren't hurting anyone by having evil thoughts about them. It's not like you are acting on those thoughts. Sure you may pay for it in a cosmic/karma type way but it's virtually harmless.

[Sansa Stark]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

You aren't hurting anyone by having evil thoughts about them. It's not like you are acting on those thoughts. Sure you may pay for it in a cosmic/karma type way but it's virtually harmless.

You are by expressing them publicly, though. That's not harmless because it reinforces harmful attitudes.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

You aren't hurting anyone by having evil thoughts about them. It's not like you are acting on those thoughts. Sure you may pay for it in a cosmic/karma type way but it's virtually harmless.

And it's not like I can help the bad thoughts. Do you think I'm gonna just forgive and forget the guy who stood over me in school punching my arms over and over again until I was crying and pleading with him to stop? **** the hell no. If I found out he'd died tomorrow I'd be happy to piss on that little sociopath's grave.

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by Hermione

You are by expressing them publicly, though. That's not harmless because it reinforces harmful attitudes.

Isn't the point of this thread a confessional of thoughts that you feel like sharing even if they might not be perceived as morally right or fair?

[Sansa Stark]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

And it's not like I can help the bad thoughts. Do you think I'm gonna just forgive and forget the guy who stood over me in school punching my arms over and over again until I was crying and pleading with him to stop? **** the hell no. If I found out he'd died tomorrow I'd be happy to piss on that little sociopath's grave.

This isn't about you, go back to your cage until I say you can come out

*cracks whip*

[Sansa Stark]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

Isn't the point of this thread a confessional of thoughts that you feel like sharing even if they might not be perceived as morally right or fair?

I never said they couldn't share them, but the whole thing about sharing your opinion doesn't mean you're exempt from being told it's a shite opinion.