women rights... don't just ignore this (members, quote, 2007)

MooseyDoom777 · 03-17-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns

I noticed women's rights activists like to bring in this issue about muslim women, completely disregarding the cultural differences. Are there no muslim women in your area? Yes, there are some that are "westernized", but most wear these garments, whether they are in the kingdom, the US, or in Iran. I dont know anything abou the Qur'an, so I'm not going to try to explain the religious aspect. But, it's not a matter of whether they have to, but I think they want to. In Iraq, it was a slightly different story, because women were typically not employed in government and had to cover their entire body (including the face).
You come off sounding racist, I know that's not what you were trying to portray. But, you shouldn't feel bad. They might not be able to wear spagetti straps and flip-flops and belly rings, but I doubt they want to either. This is their culture, that is the only thing they know, and want to know. The global community always speaks in terms of "saving" the Islam world. From what?

Hookers is completely right. When you're brought up that way, it's hard to change. Not to mention the fact that they probably don't WANT to change. Even the men there wouldn't want to see women dressed like that. I was in an elevator with a muslim man, and he wouldn't even look at any of the women in the elevator, including me(and I don't dress slutty). They can dress differently in America, but the majority want to respect their culture and hide themselves. Telling them to change that would be like telling the Village Peoploe to stop acting ***. Hopefully none of that sounded racist.

blackTshirt · 03-18-2005, 02:50 AM

hey, most of you got this wrong... i actually happen to don't like girls or women very much (because of what some of them end up to be, looking like stupid barbie dolls or whatever). but i don't judge by appearances, i don't see a person like all the others, i know people have something special, even if they don't use it or show it. it's not about that. i completely hate the girl-power attitude and this thread is not about it. it was about how some women are forced by others to be or do something. MEN AND WOMEN SHOULD BE EQUAL, that's all

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 03-18-2005, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackTshirt

MEN AND WOMEN SHOULD BE EQUAL

Should be, but arent. Its not that theyre treated unfairly, but men and women are different, like it or not.

blackTshirt · 03-18-2005, 03:53 AM

yeah, i do know that.. and it's not about if i like it or not...

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 03-18-2005, 03:55 AM

No I know, I wasnt referring to you really, just to all the gals I was talking about earlier...

Mixin · 03-19-2005, 07:27 PM

women have no rights!

Anarchy doll · 03-19-2005, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

One side my family is asian & I know of some arranged marrages.It`s not limited to women or muslims. It`s the parents who arrange the marrages not the bride or the groom.In fact the men in arranged marrages have absolutley no say in it either, so I don`t see how that can be considered sexist. Some are happy to do it because it`s their faith , some are not. There`s nothing male/female in it.

Like Apu?

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 03-20-2005, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mixin

women have no rights!

Alright then, tell me why. Im interested now, I'd like to see how all these women are working as I type this, how they can support themselves financially, how they can vote, how they can do basically everything men have the right to do, and still have no rights.

jibber · 03-20-2005, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

To be fair in a lot of those countries nobody has many rights , not just women.

true, but men do have many more rights that women don't have. The fact that every citizen is supressed to some degree isn't the issue here (although it is a big issue), it's the fact that women are denied a whole long list of things that makes it an issue. Cultural differences aside, women should have equal rights as men, and the bottom line is that this is far from happening in a lot of countries in the middle east, and in many other countries too.

blackTshirt · 03-21-2005, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mixin

women have no rights!

your smart posts have been missed

03-18-2005, 02:50 AM	#22 (permalink)
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