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Laces Out Dan! · 02-13-2008, 01:09 AM

Barnard17 · 02-13-2008, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by blackTshirt

but do not say that muslim women like being controlled and forced to merry 40 year old men when they're 18, k?

Ok, cool, but don't say that they don't. Make a claim, back it up with research. Using emotionally charged descriptions of arranged marriages is hardly accurate, not all parents use it as some obscure way of selling off their children to get a good dowry. There isn't a "dating" culture in many Muslim countries, there isn't the same attitude to the issue. In the same vein plenty of western women who have become Muslim have taken to wearing the hijab and feel it liberates them from the perverted gaze of men. Yes in some cultures women are forced to wear it, but there's a flipside to the coin.

I also like that people seemed to ignore the text of the article and just read the headline and looked at the pictures: "Apparently they will not need to wear the black chador - instead their uniform will consist of trousers and a long coat, and maybe even a ski suit, depending on the mission."

amoney32 · 02-13-2008, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I`m sure those women would point out to you that they would find people not wearing those clothes just as offensive as you find them wearing them.

They do it because they feel they will be spiritually rewarded for it in the next life.To me thats a much better arguement for it than a load of PC bull**** against.

I def agree with Urban Hatemonger on this one...they look at it from a different angle it is part of what they believe and how the feel...I just think its wrong because it took so long to let the woman on the force. I think everyone should have equal rights male or female when it comes to something of that nature.....

tkpb938 · 02-13-2008, 08:37 AM

All these arguments "for" muslim extremism are geat and all (note the sarcasm), but what gets bad is when women there are punished because some man accidentally saw a womens ankles. Thats just ****ing ridiculous. Nobody should be forced by the government to follow bull**** like that. It may be what most would choose, but not all, and thats the point. You should have the choice.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-13-2008, 12:02 PM

I don't see any arguments for Muslim extremism.

I see arguments for Muslim culture , but thats all.

Barnard17 · 02-13-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938

All these arguments "for" muslim extremism are geat and all (note the sarcasm), but what gets bad is when women there are punished because some man accidentally saw a womens ankles. Thats just ****ing ridiculous. Nobody should be forced by the government to follow bull**** like that. It may be what most would choose, but not all, and thats the point. You should have the choice.

Ok, that's cool. Wanna quote the person who said that though? Or wait, are you just trying to make a controversial point for the sake of getting attention.

tkpb938 · 02-13-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I don't see any arguments for Muslim extremism.

I see arguments for Muslim culture , but thats all.

Okay so the Muslim culture is being forced to follow strict muslim laws?... I don't think so. The keyword here is forced.

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Ok, that's cool. Wanna quote the person who said that though? Or wait, are you just trying to make a controversial point for the sake of getting attention.

As much as care about the attention of some random internet person I don't know thats not the reason I said that...

~~The Unfan~~ · 02-13-2008, 05:37 PM

I agree. It offends me to see women with that much clothing on. All women should be naked, all of the time.

Barnard17 · 02-13-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938

As much as care about the attention of some random internet person I don't know thats not the reason I said that...

Why you said it is moot, fact is you made a generalised statement saying we're supporting "Muslim extremism" without backing it up with references of anybody actually doing so, refusing to do so once challenged. Ergo you're nothing but a petty shit stirrer.

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tkpb938 · 02-13-2008, 05:51 PM

Actually whats annoying to me is that everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that they are forced to follow these laws. People are saying stuff like "..they are happy b/c its their religion". And thats total b.s. Who can say that everyone in those countries want to be following the muslim religion? The radical muslim governments are censoring anything that is not in line with muslim teachings, forcing people to do things that they should have a choice on etc. etc.

Don't get me wrong I'm not like prejudice against muslims or anything but cmon now... If you guys dont see whats wrong there well I'll just give up and leave.

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I don't see any arguments for Muslim extremism. I see arguments for Muslim culture , but thats all. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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tkpb938 Lvl 70 Troll Hunter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sunny Phoenix Posts: 482	All these arguments "for" muslim extremism are geat and all (note the sarcasm), but what gets bad is when women there are punished because some man accidentally saw a womens ankles. Thats just **ing ridiculous. Nobody should be forced by the government to follow bull** like that. It may be what most would choose, but not all, and thats the point. You should have the choice.

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~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	I agree. It offends me to see women with that much clothing on. All women should be naked, all of the time.

02-13-2008, 05:51 PM	#40 (permalink)
tkpb938 Lvl 70 Troll Hunter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sunny Phoenix Posts: 482	Actually whats annoying to me is that everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that they are forced to follow these laws. People are saying stuff like "..they are happy b/c its their religion". And thats total b.s. Who can say that everyone in those countries want to be following the muslim religion? The radical muslim governments are censoring anything that is not in line with muslim teachings, forcing people to do things that they should have a choice on etc. etc. Don't get me wrong I'm not like prejudice against muslims or anything but cmon now... If you guys dont see whats wrong there well I'll just give up and leave.