1 = .999..... Right?

Freebase Dali · 07-30-2010, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

I also have no idea how I can explain my side any better.
Agree to disagree, my good friend.

Mathematicians knew you would try this, so they made a ton of......FALSE MATH? to keep you occupied with intuition and uneducated "common sense" that got kicked around in grade school for the general betterment of the average guy. Please do not rule this life with that small a bubble, oh king!

Kirby · 07-30-2010, 03:40 AM

I do understand that it's accepted as one and the same. Of course.

But I also feel like, if it continues forever (1.99999999999...) it's never REALLY 2. Just that if it continues infinitely, the difference is so miniature that it could be replaced with two, and be pretty much the same (but not quite, at the same time).

Chainsawkitten · 07-30-2010, 04:09 AM

Yes, the difference between the two is 0.000000... infinity .... 0001, which is the same as 0.
0.000...001 is infinitely small, as is 0.

I, too, had problems grasping this concept when it was first introduced to me.

TheBig3 · 07-30-2010, 06:36 AM

Did we really bring the nerd-dom of MMO's to MB?

Seltzer · 07-30-2010, 06:55 AM

MMOers wish they could be this nerdy

TheBig3 · 07-30-2010, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

MMOers wish they could be this nerdy

Oh really? Then feast your virgin eyes upon the godless math skills of the Theorycrafters at Elitist Jerks...Behold!

http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t82625-shaman_elemental/

Don't even read the page, just scroll down and watch the formulas and graphs scroll by. This is for one spec, of one class, in one video game - nerds.

Seltzer · 07-30-2010, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Oh really? Then feast your virgin eyes upon the godless math skills of the Theorycrafters at Elitist Jerks...Behold!

http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t82625-shaman_elemental/

Don't even read the page, just scroll down and watch the formulas and graphs scroll by. This is for one spec, of one class, in one video game - nerds.

WoW nerds do put an impressive amount of effort into theorycrafting. I also came across this recently - it's an academic paper written about the probabilities of getting various skills when leveling up in Heroes III

noise · 07-30-2010, 07:30 AM

it's good news that .9 repeated is the same as 1, otherwise i'd never make it home (i'd just get closer, and closer, and closer... but never quite there!)

of course, if you break my journey down into an infinite number of steps, each step is zero meters... so how will i ever get home?

swim · 07-30-2010, 07:55 AM

You can find the sum of geometric series that converge. Thus you can find the sum or rational form of a repeating decimal. By using n/(1-r)

.9/(1-.1)=.9/.9=1

I'm a math major
this is fact
close thread

TheBig3 · 07-30-2010, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swim

You can find the sum of geometric series that converge. Thus you can find the sum or rational form of a repeating decimal. By using n/(1-r)

.9/(1-.1)=.9/.9=1

I'm a math major
this is fact
close thread

I'm kinda turned on right now.

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swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,145	You can find the sum of geometric series that converge. Thus you can find the sum or rational form of a repeating decimal. By using n/(1-r) .9/(1-.1)=.9/.9=1 I'm a math major this is fact close thread __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

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Chainsawkitten Groupie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 42	Yes, the difference between the two is 0.000000... infinity .... 0001, which is the same as 0. 0.000...001 is infinitely small, as is 0. I, too, had problems grasping this concept when it was first introduced to me.

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