SATCHMO

When did this become the negative effects of smoking thread? seriously? Seriously?

IWP

Well how about a postive effect then? It's a hell of a good stress relievier, which is basically the only reason I got into smoking cigarettes, cause I get stressed like a mother****er sometimes, and I feel mellowed out after a cigarette.

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TheCunningStunt

It may kill you... but it takes the stress away!

I'm anti-smoking, but if you're in a thread that's talking about favourite cigarette brands then you're pissing against the wind.

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Phzed

Most anti-smokers are drinkers, not really heavily, but they still drink.
and alcohol is much worse than tobacco.

either way, I smoke Golden Virginia, rolling tobacco.

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VEGANGELICA

I think here: http://www.musicbanter.com/920393-post120.html

Don't you feel health issues relate to smokers' favorite cigarette brands? Some smokers choose their favorite brand partly because they think the brand is safer than another. For example, apparently many smokers still think incorrectly that low-tar cigarettes are safer, and so select those brands (such as Carlton):

"Even today, many smokers think that low-tar or so-called light or ultra-light cigarettes are better for them than full-strength smokes. Because reducing tar levels also tends to lower nicotine levels, studies have shown that smokers inadvertently compensate for the loss of the nicotine. The rise of the filter cigarette was more a marketing ploy than anything else. There was little evidence to suggest that filter cigarettes were any healthier than regular cigarettes, and the tobacco companies' own researchers knew this to be the case." NOVA Online | Search for a Safe Cigarette | "Safer" Cigarettes: A History

The health effects of third-hand smoke on infants have not been studied yet, since only during the last year or so have people realized that third-hand smoke may be a significant concern. Because second-hand smoke is known to be especially harmful to children (Health Effects | Smoke-free Homes Program | US EPA), the concern is that children may also be particularly harmed by the third-hand smoke chemicals such as nicotine, which sticks to surfaces after a cigarette is extinguished and can convert into a strong carcinogen.

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TheCunningStunt

Rubbish. It all depends on the quantities.
If you have a pack of cigarettes a day, and I have 6 lagers on a Saturday.
Which is gonna be worse?
Same if I get drunk every day, and you just smoke a couple of cigarettes a day.
I really don't think one is worse for you than the other, though I'd say smoking is more addictive. Because smokers need their fix every day.
Drinkers tend to be social drinkers.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

Do you have a car?

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crash_override

I agree that it's all about quanties and frequency of use. But a hardcore alcoholic who drinks every waking minute of the day would certainly have less time to live than an avergae person who did the same with smokes.

Leaving Las Vegas is one of the best movies that portrays hardcore alcoholism, this scene is personally one of my favorites.

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TheCunningStunt

Hardcore alcoholics aren't your every day drinker. Every day drinker vs every day smoker, smokers are going to be worse off. I think alcohol is the lesser of two evils. That said, I don't really know what the 'average every day smoker' smokes. It's all subjective. Still, silly to be talking about how bad smoking is for you when this is a smokers thread. If someone deems it an interesting enough topic, make a separate thread about it.

I love Leaving Las Vegas, Nic Cage with a well deserved Oscar there.

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VEGANGELICA

No. The car I showed previously on MB as being in my possession was donated to a needy non-profit that transports orphans to their new families. Now I walk everywhere. With a gas mask on.

Unfortunately, I can't stop everyone else from driving, so I'm always going to be subjected to some carcinogenic second-hand car exhaust. I feel that's one good reason for not adding to the problem by smoking.

So what do you smoke? Did cigarette companies lure you into buying filtered or low-tar cigarettes? GAA! I wish your other stress release method were legal in public so you could do that instead!

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