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Originally Posted by Cressidagater
(Post 899804)
What's the point? Why be a musician if you have no desire, no passion to play music? What about in 200 years time when everyone's dead and gone, and no-one remembers you. If you sold out your basic values and ideals, is anyone gonna pick up your piece of crap record, or mp3 even, and listen? Probably not. Because what's popular right now, is dated. Whereas your vision, is timeless. Maybe it's crap, granted, could be timeless crap. But that's all perspective. Make something you wish to be heard, then whoever listens to it and understands, that's the measure of your success. That will be your own unique contribution to Humanity and the Universe.
Granted that trend is true. But those things were simply deviations from mainstream. Indie arguably, could have had the best of all genres under it's banner, and created a mainstream that isn't full of crap, but full of musical skill and accomplishment.
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top - why does social recognition matter to your desire or ability to play music? you're still talking about being physically celebrated - not unlike the focus of a sellout. everything you're posting here still revolves around attention - you're talking about writing something you wish to be heard while advocating avoiding the simplest and most effective ways of accomplishing that goal.
it's not like Elvis Presley wrote most of
his material, not unlike Frank Sinatra, Celine Dion, or Miley Cyrus... they're all dirty sellouts after all, no?
what's the point of writing songs, practicing sets, playing your local dive bar, recording a demo in your basement, and otherwise making a go of playing music for a living if you're not going to try to be successful with it? why waste your time writing formulaic songs if you're not willing to go commercial? why not find an artistic outlet that provides solace for your soul that doesn't involve taking up space and attention away from people honestly trying to make a living with their music? if you don't have a drive for success, why get in their way?
that's really my big beef with most DIY and fringe musicians, they all act like their poop smells SO much better than the sellouts while still trying to divert as much mainstream attention to their 'message' *cough*themselves*cough* as possible but it's 'ok' because they're being indirect about it. :banghead:
and yes i'm a pretentious ass who thinks his music was more 'pure' than most other independent stuff due to our complete lack of effort in crafting any sort of traditional song or following any sort of typical commercial path - we just played the music we wanted to hear, we were musicians, not entertainers - screw the audience.
bottom - so exactly how did Indie propose to be an umbrella for the best of all sub genres any differently than when Alternative proposed to do the exact same? (see Alt-rock, Alt-country, Alt-jazz, Alt-techno, Alt-Alt, etc.)