Thats a nice way to put it Dali. You're all heart... :D

Yea I totally do it for them...

Hence the sarcastic dots, or whatever theyre called.

I think those are called "after the fact dots".
;)

The fact being that you're all heart? :laughing:

The fact that you edited your post after you read mine. ;)

<-- Mod

I did that because you didnt quite get the desired sarcastic effect, so I had to edit it and put dots there so I wouldnt have to explain I was being sarcastic and look like a prat! See, theres a lot of thought going into those three damn dots :)

Ah, is that why you have blue writing?

I see. I was just giving you a hard time, btw. :)

And yes, anyone with a blue name is a moderator.

Sell out is a stupid word. Any artist who is willing to sell their work as a product, weither it's a big label or a small one, is selling out so to speak, as in compromising their personal expression for profit gains, EVERY recording artist that has ever existed has done this the day they got a contract, no matter the kind of label. And if you are gonna sell your music for profit you might as well make a damn good profit.

What reason is there not to join a big label these days?

Record companies are more liberal than they used to be and they dont really try to compromise your sound and creativity anymore (unless you are one of those crappy radio rock bands that only care about money to begin with), you have more technology at your disposal so you can do things that you'd have extreme difficulty doing on a small sh*tty label and oh yeah, your music would reach more people than just pretentious hipster kids who care more about the idea of being on a small label than making quality music.

Sometimes "selling out" has another meaning and an even dumber one, and that's making more accessible music. I don't want ANYONE to tell me I should be restricted to doing a certain kind of thing for the rest of my career, I wouldn't tolerate it even from fans. If my band decided one day to make a pure pop record, not because we wanted more money but because god forbid we actually like pop music, then that's something we would do.

Besides, what artist wouldn't want to make enough money so they can start their OWN label and be their own boss?

Same here, I wouldn't be comfortable with it under any circumstances though, commercials always ruin songs for me because I hate commercials.

I thought The Colour and the Shape was a fantastic album but I agree overall, they got really bland and boring after that and I can't stand to hear Learn to Fly or Times Like These on the radio anymore.