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Old 07-21-2010, 01:30 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Yeah, the shaved eyebrows look can be quite striking, although I tend to like the eyebrows where they are most times. Part of going without eyebrows, I think, is adjusting the makeup to complement it. A woman with a particularly piercing gaze can look amazing without hair or eyebrows. The eyes are just unleashed.
Agreed.

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This is a woman with alopecia, and her eyes are stunning.


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I do find the shaving to be a turn-on. I've just found with a lot of the material out there, the clipping is shown in excruciating detail from multiple angles, the lathering and shaving are done a couple of times, and there just isn't any artistry to it. And after all that, hardly any time is spent on the result. I tend to jump forward to where the razor shaving begins.
Same here.

Some videos focus way too much on the cutting, which is boring. There is no actual purpose to cutting your hair if you're gonna shave it off anyway it's just playing around and teasing. I don't get erotic appeal from that, I get it from the buzzing, the lathering and the razor shaving. And you're right some don't show enough of the end result.

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The woman's reactions are definitely part of the appeal. That first feel when it's done, or even that little "WTF?" expression they all get when they first feel the razor up there. I know from experience, it doesn't feel like you think it's going to. I really enjoy that moment of surprise.
Yeah the reactions are special, the more confidence a woman shows in her new look afterwards the better.

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But ultimately, the shaving is more of a means to an end for me.
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I'm thinking of doing a whole blog article on that. Part of it is exactly as you say - pretentious neo-hippy rants and the whole "fer us or agin us" attitude.

And they just bug me. The "SHAM-poo and CON-ditioner" line wasn't all that clever the first time I read it, much less the fiftieth. I find many activists have a blind spot for when they're just being lame and annoying and doing absolutely nothing to further their cause.
Yeah I hate how they constantly use those puns.

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And they are just another extremist image for shaved heads. They don't even think it's attractive. They're sacrificing good looks for the environment, not advancing a broader idea of beauty.
I'm sure some of them want to defy what the media considers attractive as well though. But yeah they have made it a political obligation rather than something to do for fun, comfort or aesthetic reasons. To be fair, that doesn't mean some of them don't do it for those reasons also.

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I don't know if you saw this, but one of the Futurecuts preview clips on YouTube had a comment from one of these people to the effect of "Good for you, although I'm not sure I understand the motivation."

Gee, it's not a political statement. She's just doing it for fun, a little extra money, and because some people think it looks good. What a strange notion. I couldn't tell if she just didn't get it, was deliberately being bitchy, or just trying to hijack someone else's video to promote her agenda.
That's actually not that ignorant by YouTube standards. A lot of headshaving videos on YT get comments like "ugly" and "WHY???????????????????????".

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I also just don't understand some of the reasoning. Apparently, individual choice is to blame for our woes, so they are adopting a uniform look that does not use hair products (just shaving cream, razor blades and soap). What? The whole beauty industry is fueled on conformity. People fork out money for this stuff because they think they have to look a certain way. Unless you live in the world of THX 1138, shaving your head is an act of rebellion more than it is one of conformity.
Opposing uniformity by promoting uniformity doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

But from what I understand, these people seem to think diversity is the root of our problem (I don't agree with this obviously), that because we are so different we judge ourselves by comparing ourselves to others in how we look, especially in terms of hair.

I don't agree with this movement but I think I understand what it is they are trying to say. Still annoyingly self righteous though.

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And I don't believe for one minute these Face World Faceoff people don't get a charge out of standing out in a crowd.
Yeah, there is nothing wrong with wanting attention from others. But there is something wrong with hypocrisy.

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That's why I'm not in too much of a hurry to get a forum going. I want to build the blog audience a bit, and try to get a critical mass before I start. You will definitely get an invitation when that happens.

As for the other dead forums, it seems like neglect was the problem. Not enough moderation. They either got overrun with spam and trolls, or tightened up their membership requirements to the point where it just wasn't worth signing up. A few good moderators who are firm but flexible are what any forum needs. I'll keep you in mind for the job.
Yeah your blog is only a month old so it still needs time and hopefully the acomo crowd will flock in your direction if you keep the content coming. I'm optimistic that you will gain more viewers because your blog has a ridiculous amount of tags.

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I must admit, it is pretty strange that I'd have to go to a music board to find a good discussion of bald women and acomophilia. I usually hang out on b-movie boards, where they know Persis, but not for the same reasons.
Yeah, I made this thread because I constantly went on about bald women on topics where it isn't really relevant, I still do that actually.
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Old 07-21-2010, 02:44 PM   #112 (permalink)
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That's actually not that ignorant by YouTube standards. A lot of headshaving videos on YT get comments like "ugly" and "WHY???????????????????????".
Remember that the comment was from a woman with a shaved head. In that context, it was pretty ignorant. LOL, I hate the "why would you do that?" comments too and here's another one. "Aw, you were so beautiful before."
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I hate those so much.
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I'm really surprised to hear about guys getting looks for having a shaved head. It's a pretty common thing around these parts, especially for guys with thinning hair.
It's only happened a couple of times but with having piercings, a couple of tattoo's and usually wearing a band T shirt as well as my usual non smiling self it's easy for people to jump to those conclusions . I was shaving my head before I started thinning anyhow as it was practical and I think it suits me.

I think that if I looked a lot older and was generally bald anyhow then it would be more acceptable but because I still only have a widows peak instead of being completely bald when it grows a little then it looks like I purposefully shave my head instead of doing it out of neccessity if that makes sense---probably doesn't!
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Yeah the only time I think people get weirded out by guys with shaved heads is when it's like a whole group of them. Then the fear of them being a gang of violent skinheads has more merit.
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It's only happened a couple of times but with having piercings, a couple of tattoo's and usually wearing a band T shirt as well as my usual non smiling self it's easy for people to jump to those conclusions . I was shaving my head before I started thinning anyhow as it was practical and I think it suits me.

I think that if I looked a lot older and was generally bald anyhow then it would be more acceptable but because I still only have a widows peak instead of being completely bald when it grows a little then it looks like I purposefully shave my head instead of doing it out of neccessity if that makes sense---probably doesn't!
Yeah, I know when I was in my early 20s, with a pretty visible shadow on top even after the closest shaves, I think I intimidated more people. And this was still years before shaved heads became the new combover, and everybody started getting shaved for charity, so it wasn't something you saw very often, even on a guy. I'm a big guy, and generally pretty quiet, so I can be intimidating at the best of times.

Now, more than a decade and a half later, my appearance has softened and my bald-by-choice head is becoming less of a choice every year. I'm one of three completely bald men on my block. Nobody really seems to notice anymore, except when convenient for identification purposes. "He's a big, bald guy."

In some ways, it's nice to be so normal, but I miss the days when my shaved head could be a conversation piece, and strange women would walk up and want to feel it. That doesn't happen anymore. I miss that.
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That is guilt tripping them, if a woman shaves her legs like many here do you're holding them responsible for the low self esteem of others. This is just unfair, that's like telling me I have to shave my head because it makes guys with alopecia or male patern baldness feel bad and that's just stupid.
I agree with you that trying to show the positives of the behavior that is considered unusual (a woman shaving her head, or a woman *not* shaving her body) is preferable to focusing on the problem caused by people perpetuating a norm, boo boo.

However, I view describing how and why norms are created as informing people rather than guilt-tripping them. It is talking about the reality of a situation. For example, every time Tyra Banks gives bald women wigs or make-up, she is perpetuating the idea that women need those to be beautiful, and that being beautiful is important. Without acknowledging the effects of her actions, we don't see the full picture of why most women want long hair.

With the leg hair issue, the fact is people made women feel their own body hair was superfluous or ugly, so they shaved it off to feel attractive, and now women perpetuate the norm by almost always shaving. Pointing out that this is how the norm was created and sustained may help people realize reasons they might wish to question the norm. Long head hair and shaved legs/underarms for women are so common that people may not even think of themselves as having a choice because they never questioned those societal habits, so challenging assumptions about what makes someone a "woman" is good, I feel. At least people are then thinking about this issue.

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I was joking sheesh, I know you wouldn't be into that.
I knew you were joking! I just decided to answer seriously.

So, boo boo and perhaps baldy, here's a shaved-head question for you both: How do you think your fetishes would be affected if the norm for women was to be bald? Do you think your fetishes would have even developed? Do you think you might have ended up with a fetish for the few women with long, luxurious, silky head hair, since that would be unusual and would mean the woman gloried in the sensuality of her hair and was brave enough to defy society and think for herself? Or, do you feel there is something intrinsic about women's bald heads that appeals to you?
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So, boo boo and perhaps baldy, here's a shaved-head question for you both: How do you think your fetishes would be affected if the norm for women was to be bald? Do you think your fetishes would have even developed? Do you think you might have ended up with a fetish for the few women with long, luxurious, silky head hair, since that would be unusual and would mean the woman gloried in the sensuality of her hair and was brave enough to defy society and think for herself? Or, do you feel there is something intrinsic about women's bald heads that appeals to you?
Wow. That's one I don't think I could answer. I know there a lot of things that are aesthetically appealing about women with bald heads. If most women were bald, I might just enjoy the norm and have no fetish in that regard. Mind you, acomophilia is certainly not my only kink, it's just by far the strongest.

I have considered that if the fashion caught on too much, it might lose some of its power to excite. I mean, getting something good in small doses is a treat, but that might change if it's every day. Then again, I see beautiful women with hair on a regular basis, and the frequency of viewing does not seem to make them any less so.

It's a question I don't think I have a definite answer for.

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I agree with you that trying to show the positives of the behavior that is considered unusual (a woman shaving her head, or a woman *not* shaving her body) is preferable to focusing on the problem caused by people perpetuating a norm, boo boo.

However, I view describing how and why norms are created as informing people rather than guilt-tripping them. It is talking about the reality of a situation. For example, every time Tyra Banks gives bald women wigs or make-up, she is perpetuating the idea that women need those to be beautiful, and that being beautiful is important. Without acknowledging the effects of her actions, we don't see the full picture of why most women want long hair.

With the leg hair issue, the fact is people made women feel their own body hair was superfluous or ugly, so they shaved it off to feel attractive, and now women perpetuate the norm by almost always shaving. Pointing out that this is how the norm was created and sustained may help people realize reasons they might wish to question the norm. Long head hair and shaved legs/underarms for women are so common that people may not even think of themselves as having a choice because they never questioned those societal habits, so challenging assumptions about what makes someone a "woman" is good, I feel. At least people are then thinking about this issue.
I take offense from Tyra Banks because she enforces the belief on alopecians that they need hair to be attractive. I do not take offense from women who choose to have long hair because they find that more aesthetically pleasing than being bald, that is their right to their opinion. The prominence of women with long hair does have an influence on how alopecians see themselves which is sad but that doesn't mean these women should be denied to have hair out of some percieved moral obligation.

The solution is to spread the idea that bald women can be attractive. Women like Sharon Blynn have been doing just that, she's not forcing other women to shave their heads she's just saying that being bald can be a sexy alternative.

Hairy legs are a little more out there but I don't see why a woman can't go about it in the same way, instead of being self righteous about it.

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So, boo boo and perhaps baldy, here's a shaved-head question for you both: How do you think your fetishes would be affected if the norm for women was to be bald? Do you think your fetishes would have even developed? Do you think you might have ended up with a fetish for the few women with long, luxurious, silky head hair, since that would be unusual and would mean the woman gloried in the sensuality of her hair and was brave enough to defy society and think for herself? Or, do you feel there is something intrinsic about women's bald heads that appeals to you?
Yes that's how I feel, the fact that it's different, exotic and groundbreaking is part of the appeal but the primary reason is that I just find it aesthetically pleasing, sexually attractive and beautiful. If bald women were everywhere I think it would still be my preference.

But I will say that the rarity makes it more exciting on a sexual level. I still think hair looks good, I'm just bored with it.
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The solution is to spread the idea that bald women can be attractive. Women like Sharon Blynn have been doing just that, she's not forcing other women to shave their heads she's just saying that being bald can be a sexy alternative.
That does seem to be a nice solution, boo boo, except I hope she doesn't just say that being bald is a sexy alternative but is also an alternative that may have nothing to do with a woman's sexuality. And I understand your point, which is a good one, about emphasizing the benefits of alternatives rather than forcefully challenging someone about her behavior.

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If bald women were everywhere I think it would still be my preference.

But I will say that the rarity makes it more exciting on a sexual level. I still think hair looks good, I'm just bored with it.
The preference for baldness is interesting to me, because so many people really like the feel of someone's head hair...but it's all just a preference, of course, and there is nothing wrong with the fact that you groove on smooth!

By the way, I DID see that leg shaving comment in the rape thread. I've managed to refrain myself...for now.
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