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Old 07-03-2010, 05:42 AM   #81 (permalink)
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I'm awaiting the inevitable STFU YOU STUPID BITCH comments. I hope this thread dies soon and you guys think I'm a badass, tattooed MALE.
I dont expect any comments of this nature. I actually thought your post was one of the more honest, insightful in this thread so far. As someone perfectly happy with their gender, with absolutely no desire to be any other way, i thought it was interesting to read such an honest account of some of the ways in which others can feel somewhat uncomfortable.

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Like, how a guy who sleeps with a lot of girls is a hero of sorts, a 'stud.' Whereas a girl who sleeps with a lot of guys is dirty, rank, and a 'slut.' It's double standards yes, and it sucks, but I think these kind of societal issues happen with both genders. I find my gender has held me back in life many times but I could say the same for guys that I know. Like boobs said, it's all social stigma.
You know, i agree completely that women get judged far more for sleeping around than men do. im not claiming this is right but its a fact as far as im concerned. Im happy to admit that promiscuity is a turn off for me. It's a big turn off. Its the biggest turn off and if i think about it and ask myself whether i would judge women for this more than men then maybe if im honest, i would realise that i do judge women a little more?

Im not entirely sure that this is the case because i dont exactly have a very high opinion of the guys i have known or know or have met in the past who go from bar to bar trying to tap up every single girl they see so they can take her home and brag about her to their friends the next day but also, im not attracted to men. I dont want to be friends with guys like this but i damn sure dont want to sleep with them either, so in that sense it isnt a turn off. Their sex lives are none of my business and so why do i care?

I am however attracted to women, i do want to sleep with women and i dont want to sleep with a woman who is the female equivalent of the type of guy i just mentioned, who is the kind of girl that actually sleeps with these kind of pricks and so that WOULD be a turn off. Would it not be natural if i were to judge her a little more?
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:57 AM   #82 (permalink)
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I think sex changes are stupid.
I have to agree with you here. They say its about feeling comfortable in your own skin and they didnt feel right being a man/woman so sex change was the only solution.

I just dont understand it. Maybe because I've never felt the need to get a penis to feel like myself, but I believe to be yourself you just need a bit of self-respect, and I dont see how having a sex change can do that for you. If you want to have a sex change, whatever floats your boat, go for it, but its not something I fully agree with.
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Old 07-03-2010, 06:12 AM   #83 (permalink)
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I dont expect any comments of this nature.
You'd get those comments on other forums like DDD (which is sexist as holy f*ck) sure but I don't think MB is like that.

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I actually thought your post was one of the more honest, insightful in this thread so far. As someone perfectly happy with their gender, with absolutely no desire to be any other way, i thought it was interesting to read such an honest account of some of the ways in which others can feel somewhat uncomfortable.
Yes we can all agree that when else fails, blame the douchebag males. A lot of men seem to really get off on the concept of penis envy and that women really want to be them, another bigoted worldview that needs to be challenged in the same way the old worldview that it's better to be white than to be black needed to be challenged.

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You know, i agree completely that women get judged far more for sleeping around than men do. im not claiming this is right but its a fact as far as im concerned. Im happy to admit that promiscuity is a turn off for me. It's a big turn off. Its the biggest turn off and if i think about it and ask myself whether i would judge women for this more than men then maybe if im honest, i would realise that i do judge women a little more?
I don't get the huge sexual appeal of virgins, I presume it's because the first time is always the most intense and giving women the most sexual satisfication is itself very satisfying. Or maybe it's just the concept of getting to be the "deflowerer". But I'd much rather have a girl with experience if I do say so myself.

The thing is, if a woman is sexually promiscious but at the same time not anyone's bitch, as in she's in total control of her sexual life. Then she is not a slut. If she is then it's only common logic that any promiscious male would himself be a slut.

A slut isn't a sexually promiscious woman, it's a woman (or man) with serious esteem issues who is willing to degrade herself in persuing some insignificant goal. A woman who sticks around an abusive boyfriend cuz she's desperate for a relationship and feels like she doesn't deverse better is by my definition a slut. Or a prostitute.

But to say all promiscious women have self esteem issues is wrong and insulting and yeah it's a huge double standard.

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Im not entirely sure that this is the case because i dont exactly have a very high opinion of the guys i have known or know or have met in the past who go from bar to bar trying to tap up every single girl they see so they can take her home and brag about her to their friends the next day but also, im not attracted to men. I dont want to be friends with guys like this but i damn sure dont want to sleep with them either, so in that sense it isnt a turn off. Their sex lives are none of my business and so why do i care?
I have never been one of those guys and so I can't deny feeling some degree of sexist resentment that so many women inexplicably find that kind of behavior attractive. If anyone has a valid reason to turn queer it would be me but goddammit I'm holding on to my heterosexuality. Because as confusingly complicated as women are, it's worth it in comparison to men. I don't find men sexually attractive (though maybe I experimented with the concept when I was younger) nor can I relate with the great majority of them in any way.

How so many of them tend to view women is a part of it but there is a whole bunch of reasons. There is no worse kind of person than an alpha male.

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I am however attracted to women, i do want to sleep with women and i dont want to sleep with a woman who is the female equivalent of the type of guy i just mentioned, who is the kind of girl that actually sleeps with these kind of pricks and so that WOULD be a turn off. Would it not be natural if i were to judge her a little more?
This could be considered a double standard but I am attracted to some women who are like that. When guys do it it's like they treat it as a game of hunting, "HOLY SH*T GUYS LOOK WHAT I CAUGHT"

But with women, the dominatrix and cougar types, it's a refreshing role reversal. It shows that women can be the one in control in the bedroom.

Women have a great f*cking power over men, every guy knows it, unfortunately not every woman does, we try to make women feel like inferior sh*t so they don't get too comfortable with the idea that they can be in control if they want to be.
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Old 07-03-2010, 06:14 AM   #84 (permalink)
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I have to agree with you here. They say its about feeling comfortable in your own skin and they didnt feel right being a man/woman so sex change was the only solution.

I just dont understand it. Maybe because I've never felt the need to get a penis to feel like myself, but I believe to be yourself you just need a bit of self-respect, and I dont see how having a sex change can do that for you. If you want to have a sex change, whatever floats your boat, go for it, but its not something I fully agree with.
I will retract that statement somewhat though as in what Adidasss said is a very valid point, there are people with a gender "mismatch" disorder. These are people who feel like god made a mistake.

If you are a religious person I understand that you may find that insulting and that people should be proud of what they have been given. This is a belief that I share even as someone who is not religious.

For me, if I had this disorder I don't think the sacrifice is worth it, to quote South Park a man can never truly become a woman, he can only become a man with a mutilated penis and if I'm gonna be stuck on this planet as a dude I'd rather be stuck as a dude with a fully functional wang. I might need it someday.
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Well boo boo, of course it is a double standard to dislike that in men but be attractred to the same behaviour in women. However me judging women for this more than men is a double standard too, theres no doubt. I try not to judge women for it more but when im honest with myself, i think i do. I cant help but feel that for me, its natural to feel this way though simply because of my sexual orientation and that promiscuity is such a big turn off.

Im sure alot of women would say the same, wouldnt they? Maybe im wrong but i would think if a straight woman was also turned off by the promisius types then because of their interest in men sexually, the guys that behave this way would be of interest to her more than the women, wouldnt they? Because ultimately, they arent attracted to or interested in finding a woman so why care how they live their lives?
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I think maybe a point is that if a women was not attracted to a man because of his sexual promiscuity it would be seen as weird or an unacceptable reason to avoid a guy, but if a man was put off by a woman's promiscuity it would be seen as acceptable.
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Old 07-03-2010, 06:36 AM   #87 (permalink)
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Do you really think thats true? I would find it perfectly acceptible if a woman chose not to have anything to do with a guy because he was a bit of a slut.
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People are inherently hypocritical, I came to terms with that a good while back.

What I meant to say though is that promiscious men (at least those who hypocritically have issues with promiscious women) seem to subscribe to the idea that they are born with this special abillity women don't have. As in they are abusing this power they feel they were born with, and they love flaunting it. "Hey ladies I can have all the ass I want but you better stay loyal or I'll f*ck you up bitch YEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHH BOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIII".

With promiscious women, the non-crackwhore type that is, it's more like they're trying to obtain a kind of power and lifestyle that they feel they deserve to have just as much as men do. It's certainly not as culturally acceptable but I certainly admire women who break from the stereotype of how women should behave more than I admire men who simply conform to the stereotype of what it is to be a man.
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Do you really think thats true? I would find it perfectly acceptible if a woman chose not to have anything to do with a guy because he was a bit of a slut.
Most of the blokes I've ever met who are like that are self-absorbed bores who just never shut up about their exploits, so I think it'd be perfectly acceptable myself.
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I used to hang around with a bunch of lads who were like that. The kind of lads who, when they find out about you sleeping with some girl they all know, they try to give you a high five.

Im sorry but im not into that. My life is my life and i intend to keep it that way.
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