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I don't think it's hard at all to build platonic relationships with men. I think it's just easy to fantasize about women you're close to. Once the fantasy enters your head it becomes a craving. Once it becomes a craving it becomes a crush, and then the will to initiate a sexual encounter becomes rather overbearing.

With that said, there are ****loads of men who establish friendships with women hinging on the fact they want to get in their pants. Some get stuck in those friendships, build frustration, and eventually outlash. Usually quite rudely. Perhaps even heart breakingly. Then again, there are also women who purposely bring forward these friendships, and play dumb throughout them.

With that said, I do believe platonic relationships between men, and women do exist. Ones of which don't cross the line at all, whatsoever. Think it just relies on the chance combination of personalities involved.

Human beings are very complex creatures. It's hard to keep the balance of cerebral, and primal I think.

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I'd like to say I'm an exception to that rule but no I don't set out for anything more than just a friend to hang out with, but it just gets to that point that here is a person where you can take things beyond being just physical, maybe if she was just enough of a bitch it could work?

Janszoon

How does the "men are less moral" stereotype figure into that equation?

Because of bullshit stereotypes perhaps? One of my closest friends is a woman, and even when we were both single, I had nothing but strictly platonic feelings toward her.

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Paedantic Basterd

I wasn't aware I'd said that, and if I did, it honestly wasn't what I meant.


I was hoping to be set straight in here about the topic, which is why I was asking where this stereotype came from. The men who've explained it to me in the past have spoken as if they speak for all men, which has perpetuated the notion. I want it to be false, and I'm pleased to see people stand up for themselves on it.

Janszoon

Well, you said "it all comes back to 'female qualities' being undesirable". I was just pointing out that one of the stereotypes is that women are more moral than men, something which I think most people would agree is a desirable quality.

I guess the good news is, even if that stereotype were true, it indicates that men care more about personality than anything else when it comes to who they are attracted to, contrary to stereotype.

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Paedantic Basterd

That's a stereotype I've never considered. Are we talking about violent crime, for instance?

I'd always been under the impression of the opposite; friendships are forged on the basis of appearance.

I bring it up because it's an argument I had today. I haven't had many male friends, but I'm confident that those I've had have had no interest in me. That's been my experience and what I'd like to believe.

Janszoon

Not specifically. I'm just talking about the general stereotype that women are more ethical, a notion, interestingly, embraced by chauvinists and feminists alike.

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Paedantic Basterd

Oh, honestly I've never held that notion, so I'm a bit surprised to hear it's common.

Janszoon

Really? Never heard of girls being "sugar and spice and everything nice"?

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Paedantic Basterd

Well yes, but I've also heard they've got cooties.