Are you satisfied with your gender?

**Janszoon** · 07-09-2010, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

I remember having this conversation in the shoutbox not long ago. Personally, I'd be flattered. I think it's sweet if a guy offers to carry something, or open a door for me! That being said, if they don't want to carry something for me or open a door for me then I'm cool with that, too!

Basically, I don't expect them to offer to carry things or open doors, but if they do, I'll take it and think it's sweet. And I certainly don't expect them to be a packhorse.

I wish more women had your attitude. I'm the type of person who always holds the door, offers to carry things, gets the bill, etc. with other people regardless of their gender and I'm perfectly happy to do so. But what annoys me is when I encounter women who just expect me to do these things because I'm male and they think it's my job to be their porter/bodyguard/benefactor/whatever. I don't treat the women around me like maids or cooks and I expect the same courtesy in return.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 07-09-2010, 06:18 AM

I have the same feelings toward it as Kate

I like politeness, regardless of gender. I especially enjoy men grabbing things off shelves for me when I go grocery shopping, but I'm 5'2" so I wouldn't mind a woman doing it either.

boo boo · 07-09-2010, 07:21 AM

As for the education debate. I don't know what private school is like for comparison but public school was f*cking awful for me, teachers could not deal with my problems and I got bullied all the damn time, I learned more things from homeschooling and just living everyday life than I ever did from public school.

So if my kids inherent the kinda mental problems I had as a kid, I dunno about public school being an option, on one hand it does teach important social skills but on the other if I stayed at public school much longer I surely would have become more unstable and violent, which was the big reason I was dropped out for homeschooling. Homeschooling would be a preferable alternative but I wouldn't want to alienate my kids from other kids, I had no social life growing up and wouldn't want to make my kids feel alienated from the world. If I do choose homeschooling for my kids I won't make the same mistake my grandmother did, I'll try to get them involved in various hobbies and social activities.

And homeschooling would be better than private school for reasons Katie stated, saving up the money for college. Another thing I'll never get a chance to experience and never even had an option for.

FETCHER. · 07-09-2010, 07:39 AM

My exboyfriend was very courteous. He always opened doors and offered to carry things and pick up the bill. It was strange as I'd never had that before, it was nice though. I was flattered. But I used to always offer to pay. I didn't like when he wouldn't accept atleast half the money. because it was constant him paying all the time. I wanted to pay sometimes!

boo boo · 07-09-2010, 07:54 AM

I'm a cheap motherf*cker Kayliegh, I'd have no problem with letting you pay the bill.

FETCHER. · 07-09-2010, 08:02 AM

Haha, i just always felt like I would take it for granted if I didn't pay sometimes. I hate people who take things for granted!

TheCunningStunt · 07-09-2010, 08:06 AM

I had an ex and I offered to pay for everything, it's just gentlemanly.. But I guess growing up a little I'm more cautious. For one thing, not to be taken for an idiot, and secondly some women like to pay. If a girl offers halves, I tend to take her up on it. Even though the gentleman in me screams "PAY FOR HER YOU CHEAP MOTHERF*CKER".

Seltzer · 07-09-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I wish more women had your attitude. I'm the type of person who always holds the door, offers to carry things, gets the bill, etc. with other people regardless of their gender and I'm perfectly happy to do so. But what annoys me is when I encounter women who just expect me to do these things because I'm male and they think it's my job to be their porter/bodyguard/benefactor/whatever. I don't treat the women around me like maids or cooks and I expect the same courtesy in return.

That's my perspective exactly. It's a courtesy, not a prerogative.

Regarding the education topic... after primary school, I was pretty well set for getting into a good selective high school (a fair portion of my class made it into James Ruse and Baulkham, some of the best in Aus). Instead I moved to NZ and went to a pretty rough boys-only public school and I don't regret it one bit.

Some of my friends who went to more civilised schools don't believe me when I tell them about incidents back in high school such as large scale fights spurred on by people wearing gang colours on mufti days (gang member parents of some of the students became involved), food fights (junior students having hot pies biffed at them from across the quad) and a guy with a cast on having his leg rebroken after being trampled under students stampeding out of the hall.

Despite all this, I had some fantastic teachers and there was a wide spectrum of students which I wouldn't have been part of if I went to a private school. Besides, after living in a uni residence in first year, it quickly became clear that it's mostly the rich kids who went to private schools that screw up a semester or two due to too much partying / alcoholism and lack of self-control in general. Most of the rest of us had the chance to get it out of our systems back in high school before leaving home, so there was no need for us to let loose and go bat**** crazy in the process.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 07-09-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I wish more women had your attitude. I'm the type of person who always holds the door, offers to carry things, gets the bill, etc. with other people regardless of their gender and I'm perfectly happy to do so. But what annoys me is when I encounter women who just expect me to do these things because I'm male and they think it's my job to be their porter/bodyguard/benefactor/whatever. I don't treat the women around me like maids or cooks and I expect the same courtesy in return.

Please come to New Zealand. I love guys just like you.

FETCHER. · 07-09-2010, 04:53 PM

I also am always the person standing at shopping center door waiting for the last person to walk through....

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TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	I had an ex and I offered to pay for everything, it's just gentlemanly.. But I guess growing up a little I'm more cautious. For one thing, not to be taken for an idiot, and secondly some women like to pay. If a girl offers halves, I tend to take her up on it. Even though the gentleman in me screams "PAY FOR HER YOU CHEAP MOTHERF*CKER". __________________ I don't feel and I feel great. Last FM

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~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	I have the same feelings toward it as Kate I like politeness, regardless of gender. I especially enjoy men grabbing things off shelves for me when I go grocery shopping, but I'm 5'2" so I wouldn't mind a woman doing it either.