Are you satisfied with your gender?

NumberNineDream · 07-05-2010, 12:02 AM

I'm sure he won't be the only one ecstatic with a Pokemon thread.
If there's a heaven, I want it to be Pallet Town.

glastonelle · 07-05-2010, 12:08 AM

^ Count me in. Ash is basically my other half

Astronomer · 07-05-2010, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Goblin Tears

In lesser developed countries, it's not uncommon for women to live in constant fear of rape and abuse, even female circumcision. Living in England or other well off countries, it's easy to assume the sexes are equal, or at least almost equal, but some countries are two worlds away from that ideal.

It's not uncommon for women to fear rape and abuse in developed countries, too. One in 4 women in developed countries will be raped or sexually abused at some point in their lifetime. This is significantly higher than males.

But I'm not going to go into detail all of the circumstances in which I was disadvantaged because of my gender because they are pretty personal, and last time it just ended badly for everyone and I just pretty much can't be bothered arguing this topic again and again now with males.

boo boo · 07-05-2010, 01:32 AM

If I was a woman I think I would be proud of it, even if I felt like I was entitled to less rights than men.

If men do have more rights then women it's because it's the men who control things so it's only natural that those in control have more power.

But I'd rather fight those in power than suck it up and just wish I was one of those in power. That never solves anything. Even as f*cking stupid as most people are we ARE more progressive than we used to be and civil rights are totally getting better. Hopefully someday women won't feel as uncomfortable about being women.

Because talking from a guy's standpoint, a woman who is satisfied with herself and her appearance is a lot more appealing than a woman who isn't.

I also do think that like it or not, gender is always gonna be a defining trait of who you are. As negative and self depreciating as I often come off as I'm actually quite satisfied being the person that I am and being male is a part of that. Whenever I get to know someone I could never imagine them being the opposite sex nor would I want to. Even as a not so spiritual guy I think being comfortable with who you are is important. I don't give a f*ck if other people dont like me for who I am and I wish everyone felt that way.

Astronomer · 07-05-2010, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

If I was a woman I think I would be proud of it, even if I felt like I was entitled to less rights than men.

If men do have more rights then women it's because it's the men who control things so it's only natural that those in control have more power.

But I'd rather fight those in power than suck it up and just wish I was one of those in power. That never solves anything. Even as f*cking stupid as most people are we ARE more progressive than we used to be and civil rights are totally getting better. Hopefully someday women won't feel as uncomfortable about being women.

Because talking from a guy's standpoint, a woman who is satisfied with herself and her appearance is a lot more appealing than a woman who isn't.

I also do think that like it or not, gender is always gonna be a defining trait of who you are. As negative and self depreciating as I often come off as I'm actually quite satisfied being the person that I am and being male is a part of that. Whenever I get to know someone I could never imagine them being the opposite sex nor would I want to. Even as a not so spiritual guy I think being comfortable with who you are is important. I don't give a f*ck if other people dont like me for who I am and I wish everyone felt that way.

I think being comfortable with who you are is important too, but doesn't this statement reinforce the patriarchic ideal that women are just supposed to be appealing for men?

boo boo · 07-05-2010, 02:24 AM

No no no not what I meant, but I'm not talking about appealing on just a sexual level, a personality level also.

Freebase Dali · 07-05-2010, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

I think being comfortable with who you are is important too, but doesn't this statement reinforce the patriarchic ideal that women are just supposed to be appealing for men?

Women being appealing to men isn't an ideal.. it's kind of a necessity...

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 07-05-2010, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by glastonelle

^ Count me in. Ash is basically my other half

I had a 12 year-old crush on Ash. Quite sad really.

Dom · 07-05-2010, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Maybe, but all you need is a gun, that doesn't really require serious physical strength.

I'll give you that, but I'd imagine relatively few of these crimes were committed using a gun. You were talking of crimes like sexual offences amongst others, now can you really imagine an average woman overpowering an average man to rape him?

What I was really saying in my first post was that it seems to me that girls feel more emotional pain, or at least, the girls I know tend to go into more and worse bad moods than the guys I know, and it's partly that that puts me off wanting to change my gender.

Tea Supremacist · 07-05-2010, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

I understand completely the nice idea of pampering yourself, which I agree is fun. But why is shaving off your leg hair taking pride in your appearance? Why isn't *having* your leg hair taking pride in your appearance? That's what I'm getting at.

I see it as the same way as doing something with my hair or putting on make up or wearing something nice. It's personal preference. If you think having leg hair is your way of showing that you're proud of your appearance and who you are then fine, live and let live. I don't think I'd see you and be inspired to throw my razor away, but I wouldn't judge. It's like if I see a woman with a haircut I don't like or wearing a pair of really cunty shoes. I wouldn't want to look like them, but I'm not going to think less of them as a person. It's their body and their choice.

We've agreed that yes, shaving legs is a social norm and something that we would probably never do of our own free will if it weren't. But at the same time, from what I see here, I look at things a slightly different way. I have tattoos, Boo Boo has a beard and long hair, you don't shave your legs - these are all against social norms yet we still do it to 'better' (or at least alter) our appearance and distinguish us from others. It just so happens that your particular gripe is less common than the others.

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