jibber

Well obviously, but that's not what I asked. I asked the women who responded in this thread to explain how exactly they had been really held back from something because of their gender. Many women did not say that it was more difficult, or that they faced obstacles being a woman, they said they had actually been held back from something by being a women. I'm curious to hear how that happened, because I can honestly say I've never been passed over or denied anything that I wanted because of my gender.

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I wasn't responding to you.

Astronomer

It's not uncommon for women to fear rape and abuse in developed countries, too. One in 4 women in developed countries will be raped or sexually abused at some point in their lifetime. This is significantly higher than males.

But I'm not going to go into detail all of the circumstances in which I was disadvantaged because of my gender because they are pretty personal, and last time it just ended badly for everyone and I just pretty much can't be bothered arguing this topic again and again now with males.

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I understand that but as far as im aware none of the women posting in this thread are from those lesser developed countries. There seems to be a recurring theme here in which some members feel that being female puts them at a disadvantage and i am just interested to know why.

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well no but you were responding to mojopinuk, who simply said he'd like to hear the answer to my question as well, so in a way, you were responding to me. Unless you weren't responding to either of us.

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adidasss

I'll give an example. I was hired because I am a man. The firm was looking for a male because the job requires frequent contact with middle-eastern clients who look more favorably on men. Perhaps there were women who applied and were more qualified, I'll never know as they were never seriously considered. I believe there was also a consideration that a woman who was hired the year before went on maternity leave and will be out of action for at least a year. Companies frown on that. My sister also told me that her employers asked her (even though it's illegal) about her personal life (boyfriend) and whether she intended to get pregnant soon. It may not be fair, but I can also understand why employers in capitalism would prefer to hire men than women precisely because of the risk that women could get pregnant. Sucks but it happens. At least in Croatia...:\

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The cases about maternity leave and the questions about their personal life are pretty bad. I've never experienced that, although that could be due to the fact that at my age many employers don't think of me as being in the the "settling down ready to have a family" stage of my life. I know my mom had to deal with questions like that in job interviews before, but she was being interviewed by two men, one much older, one not much older than her. When the older man asked her if she had any plans to start a family, the younger one promptly told him to shut up, apologized profusely, and then offered her the job a few days later.

The other case you mentioned, in dealing with men from middle eastern cultures, is a bit more tricky because it's a direct result of the perceptions of a different culture, and I was asking more about people's experiences in the US, Canada, UK, and other european cultures. I can understand that reasoning entirely. I certainly don't agree with the sentiment that women are somehow less capable in the business world than men, but the reality is that in that area of the world, it's the norm. And no matter how much western people protest against this, it's not something that we can have any major and lasting effect on, change is going to have to come from inside those cultures to really make a difference. But that's a totally different topic.

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FETCHER.

I geniunely don't know. I like being female and looking girly, and having long hair. But men have SO many pro's. I feel women have more pressure on them also.

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Like what?

I'm curious to know why so many women here feel like they're part of the inferior sex. Women have a LOT OF pros too, one thing me and all the trannies will surely agree on.

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