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View Poll Results: Are you satisfied with your gender?
Yes 84 69.42%
No 14 11.57%
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have to agree with you here. They say its about feeling comfortable in your own skin and they didnt feel right being a man/woman so sex change was the only solution.

I just dont understand it. Maybe because I've never felt the need to get a penis to feel like myself, but I believe to be yourself you just need a bit of self-respect, and I dont see how having a sex change can do that for you. If you want to have a sex change, whatever floats your boat, go for it, but its not something I fully agree with.
Sugar-coated transphobia.
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Old 07-04-2010, 05:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sugar-coated transphobia.
Hey hey hey, I am not a transphobic (is that even a word?). All I'm saying is that its not something I understand. But if someone chooses to be transgender, thats completely fine by me. Its not my choice, my opinion shouldnt even matter. Its their decision, they have every right to do what they want. But I personally cant relate to it.
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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That's not what I mean. Yes I understand that there exists a biological condition in which people have a body of one sex and the mentality of another, in that case it's a deformity and there's nothing wrong with fixing it.

I myself do feel somewhat like a girl trapped in a dude's body sometimes, but it's more of a "what if" kinda thing and not something that puts me into a deep depression, I don't have such feelings strongly enough that I'm okay with f*cking up my body and mutilating my penis. So being a dude is cool with me.

But in this case I think some women just want to be men not because they have this disorder but because society does it's damnest to make women feel inferior to men, as appliances and nothing more, so they give in to the idea that men have it better and perhaps they do because social stigma enables them that way. Even generations of advancements in civil rights hasn't completely eliminated that ancient zeitgeist from our society. I don't at all believe it's an impossible task but it certainly isn't an easy one, it's hard to challenge something that has been around for so damn long.

And to call it depressing is an understatement. Instead of women accepting themselves as something unique and important and embracing our distinctions and the fact that we each need each other equally and have our own strengths and weaknesses, damn near everyone just accepts the socially distorted view that yeah men are superior cuz hey c'mon just look at how many "successful" men there are compared to women and blah blah blah.

It's stupid and the only reason men still DO run the world is because we don't challenge this worldview often enough.
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It's stupid and the only reason men still DO run the world is because we don't challenge this worldview often enough.
I don't have much to contribute to the discussion, so don't mind me.

But reading this made me incredibly happy. Someone really gets it.
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have to agree with you here. They say its about feeling comfortable in your own skin and they didnt feel right being a man/woman so sex change was the only solution.

I just dont understand it. Maybe because I've never felt the need to get a penis to feel like myself, but I believe to be yourself you just need a bit of self-respect, and I dont see how having a sex change can do that for you. If you want to have a sex change, whatever floats your boat, go for it, but its not something I fully agree with.
I will retract that statement somewhat though as in what Adidasss said is a very valid point, there are people with a gender "mismatch" disorder. These are people who feel like god made a mistake.

If you are a religious person I understand that you may find that insulting and that people should be proud of what they have been given. This is a belief that I share even as someone who is not religious.

For me, if I had this disorder I don't think the sacrifice is worth it, to quote South Park a man can never truly become a woman, he can only become a man with a mutilated penis and if I'm gonna be stuck on this planet as a dude I'd rather be stuck as a dude with a fully functional wang. I might need it someday.
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Well boo boo, of course it is a double standard to dislike that in men but be attractred to the same behaviour in women. However me judging women for this more than men is a double standard too, theres no doubt. I try not to judge women for it more but when im honest with myself, i think i do. I cant help but feel that for me, its natural to feel this way though simply because of my sexual orientation and that promiscuity is such a big turn off.

Im sure alot of women would say the same, wouldnt they? Maybe im wrong but i would think if a straight woman was also turned off by the promisius types then because of their interest in men sexually, the guys that behave this way would be of interest to her more than the women, wouldnt they? Because ultimately, they arent attracted to or interested in finding a woman so why care how they live their lives?
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I think maybe a point is that if a women was not attracted to a man because of his sexual promiscuity it would be seen as weird or an unacceptable reason to avoid a guy, but if a man was put off by a woman's promiscuity it would be seen as acceptable.
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Do you really think thats true? I would find it perfectly acceptible if a woman chose not to have anything to do with a guy because he was a bit of a slut.
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Do you really think thats true? I would find it perfectly acceptible if a woman chose not to have anything to do with a guy because he was a bit of a slut.
Most of the blokes I've ever met who are like that are self-absorbed bores who just never shut up about their exploits, so I think it'd be perfectly acceptable myself.
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People are inherently hypocritical, I came to terms with that a good while back.

What I meant to say though is that promiscious men (at least those who hypocritically have issues with promiscious women) seem to subscribe to the idea that they are born with this special abillity women don't have. As in they are abusing this power they feel they were born with, and they love flaunting it. "Hey ladies I can have all the ass I want but you better stay loyal or I'll f*ck you up bitch YEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHH BOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIII".

With promiscious women, the non-crackwhore type that is, it's more like they're trying to obtain a kind of power and lifestyle that they feel they deserve to have just as much as men do. It's certainly not as culturally acceptable but I certainly admire women who break from the stereotype of how women should behave more than I admire men who simply conform to the stereotype of what it is to be a man.
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