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Old 05-01-2010, 10:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Are women biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?

For the last year I've completely cut myself off from humanity. Who wants to live in a world of pure evil? Only evil is rewarded! Cruelty is the only virtue. What good is morality and ethics?

So I'd like an outside opinion do you feel that women are biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?
enamdar, I read your post and am concerned that you are seeing only one side of reality: the worst side.

Before I answer your questions, I want to say this: since you talk about intentionally isolating yourself, I do recommend you seek counseling and consider that this may help you change your perceptions. From your description, it sounds to me like you are dealing with depression and all-or-none thinking by viewing the universe as inhabited by completely selfish beings.

In answer to your first question, I would say that no, women are not biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination, and generally prefer the opposite! However, humans...whether male or female...sometimes do tend to want to be close to someone powerful such that they themselves have power, so that this helps provide themselves with protection.

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More its about what kind of world we live in where evil is always rewarded. I can't live in a universe like that. Why bother to get a job and support oneself and live in brutal ruthless dog eat dog world of evil? My parents are going to throw me out in August since I wont get a job or school.
Evil is not always rewarded. Many well-meaning people have set up justice systems to try to prevent one person from hurting or exploiting another, and hold those who are responsible for hurting others.

It sounds like your parents don't know what to do to help you. Again, I recommend you seek professional counseling, asking your parents for help, and do not expect to feel better or positive right away.

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The Darwinian-Nietzschean struggle for existence means eat or be eaten, kill or be killed, harm or be harmed. I wish simply to neither dominate nor be dominated. But that is far too much to ask in this world on both counts.
This is not too much to ask. The struggle for existence does exist, but in addition to the physical harm that beings can do to each other, there is also kindness. This may in some ways be selfish...since trying to help others often feels good. Yet often interactions can benefit both people involved. There are many examples in the natural world of symbiotic relationships in which two formerly separate organisms combine to form a new one, giving life to both. And altruism...helping others...often does not result in direct benefits for the one who helps another.

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I have no harmed anyone, except maybe my parents. My dad says I should be "altrusitic" and recover for my mom's sake.

First off my parents committed a massive injustice on me by bringing me into this cruel world just to satisfy that monster gene- Moloch.
I agree there is a selfish component to having a child, but also it is an expression of love. My guess is your parents didn't intend to make you feel your birth was an injustice, but instead to share with you all they love about life. I recommend you try to "recover" (by seeking professional counseling) for your own sake. You are not being selfish by wrestling with feelings of depression and anger, in my view. The reality is sometimes people cannot think themselves out of feelings and perceptions that harm themselves, which is the reason counseling can help.

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Second them keeping me alive, is just their genes following their selfish interest to reproduce.
On one hand, yes...but also parents usually feel this urge to care for a child as love, and they are concerned about the child for the child's own sake. For example, many people adopt children simply to try to help create a better life for the children, even though the children are not biologically their own.

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Would life be better, and free of despair if I saw other humans as unthinking moving objects instead of minds ?
No, I think that would make it much worse, because then you will have cut yourself off even more from others. Also, it simply isn't true that other people are unthinking moving objects.

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I wish to never see another human being ever again. I've cut myself off for over a year hiding in the basement till my parents throw me out.
Feeling angry at the selfishness that does exist in the world is very reasonable, but cutting yourself off and reducing your own chance to enjoy life will not make living better, only worse.

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Since everyone here accepts the basic premises of evopsych, I ask how do YOU folks deal with it? Or do you all just accept the game, and try to be the winner? IF thats the case, then maybe your right and there can not be any dialogue between me and humanity.

I don't understand how the rest of humanity can endure such a world and assume its because they must ALL be blood-thirsty vampires themselves.[

How do you endure this world? And what is your advice for me?
I doubt all people accept evolutionary psychology, though I do. I deal with the harsh realities of life by trying to make things better for others and myself and by trying to give my time and energy to help others. I try to focus on how wonderful it is to be alive at all, even if not everything is as I would wish. And sometimes I get grumpy and cynical, but then I try to focus on what I enjoy doing and finding other people to share that with.

Again, I recommend you seek counseling and consider that the way you are perceiving life now may not be how you'll see it in the future. So, don't lose hope.

Since this is a music site, I also suggest perhaps some music might help you feel more connected in a positive way to people. Many musicians create music just for the fun and beauty of it. It won't make them have more children...in other words, it won't increase their evolutionary fitness. It usually doesn't make them a lot of money. But making music is a way for them to share their feelings and creativity with others, and feel connection with others, to help make living easier and more bearable.

Here's a song I like, though I'm not religious. It always makes me feel peaceful and glad to be alive, despite problems and choices I regret. I recommend you listen to it. You sound like you are suffering. I want to tell you that suffering is not all life offers: there is also joy and beauty, peace and appreciation, friendship and love. This song always helps me feel better when I'm feeling down...not because I think there is any goal in life or any afterlife to look forward to (I don't), but because the song reminds me that I am not alone in struggling at times in this life. I hope my response is of some help to you.

Yusuf (formerly Cat Stevens) - The Wind

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