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Old 04-17-2010, 02:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So let me get this straight: you're still under the impression that liberal arts majors have more opportunities available to them? Feel free to argue this however you like, can't say I'll ever see where you're coming from. At this point it doesn't really matter what I use to support my argument, it's obvious you have a certain p.o.v. entrenched in your personal convictions.
Well, you've actually shifted the goal posts here a bit. We started off talking about English majors but then you switched to talking about liberal arts majors in general. Which would you like to talk about?

And before you jump any conclusions about what my personal convictions are, keep in mind that I too have very much of a niche degree and career path.

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Although I'd like to ask, what makes you think a liberal arts major is any more qualified than anyone else as far as a non-technical profession goes? Remember, "writing skills" aren't major-specific, everybody's expected to have those.
Who exactly do you want to compare them to? People without a degree? People with a mechanical engineering degree?

Your comment about writing skills is actually pretty funny. Employers may expect people to have them but you'd be surprised by how few people actually do. And just like you no doubt have engineering skills far beyond the typical English major, the typical English major has writing skills far beyond yours.
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Old 04-17-2010, 02:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, you've actually shifted the goal posts here a bit. We started off talking about English majors but then you switched to talking about liberal arts majors in general. Which would you like to talk about?

And before you jump any conclusions about what my personal convictions are, keep in mind that I too have very much of a niche degree and career path. I'm as far from having a generalized type of degree as you are.

Who exactly do you want to compare them to? People without a degree? People with a mechanical engineering degree?

Your comment about writing skills is actually pretty funny. Employers may expect people to have them but you'd be surprised by how few people actually do. And just like you no doubt have engineering skills far beyond the typical English major, the typical English major has writing skills far beyond yours.
I did shift focus a bit, my bad. I was using the English major as an example but I was applying it toward all degrees within the liberal arts spectrum.

And actually, it's funny that you mention it, but right now my career field is as expansive as mechanical engineering field itself is. Grad school is really where you orient your focus towards a specific field, but mechanical engineers are in demand in virtually every major industry.

I find your own perspective somewhat humorous on the matter. What common job would require the expansive knowledge of an English major over someone who's simply competent at writing professionally? There's a ceiling for knowledge in all careers where further pursuit simply becomes academic, I think you reach that level much quicker in an English major than an engineering one.

You're definitely right though. Communication skills ARE prized in industry, (and not just communications industries!) but I don't believe an English degree is necessary to see those promotions when writing requirements are mostly satisfied by being an able technical writer.
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I find your own perspective somewhat humorous on the matter. What common job would require the expansive knowledge of an English major over someone who's simply competent at writing professionally?
I gave some examples earlier: copywriter, editor, proposal writer, grant writer, journalist.

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There's a ceiling for knowledge in all careers where further pursuit simply becomes academic, I think you reach that level much quicker in an English major than an engineering one.
Because basically everyone is able to write I think this is a common misconception, but the fact is that being a great writer is a skill that is as difficult to obtain as any other professional skill.

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You're definitely right though. Communication skills ARE prized in industry, (and not just communications industries!) but I don't believe an English degree is necessary to see those promotions when writing requirements are mostly satisfied by being an able technical writer.
No offense but I think your view on this is somewhat myopic. Look in other, non-technical areas and you'll see situations where being an able technical writer is definitely not enough. For example, in the kinds of industries I work in—such as advertising, marketing and publishing—great writers are a key part of the equation.
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