Stupid Governent Laws Etc
 

Hi guys thought id put something about 2 stupid laws that are around:
My first ones more of a observational one:
See, at my shop I cant sell screwdrivers or knives to anyone 16 or under....but I can sell them a hammer or axe?
This second ones kinda more disturbing and not as 'funny'
Soham child-killer Ian Huntley kills two innocent girls, he gets imprisonment, he spends his time in his cell watching television, with his own personal guards and gym at the taxpayers expense. Meanwhile, my parents and im adamant many of our parents (maybe even us if old enough) work their fingers to the bone, day in day out for years on end, and even then money gets taken away to pay for these so-called prisoners. And also so Tony Blair/George Bush can build people-killing machinery. Shouldn't imprisonment (for killing little girls) mean...you get locked in a cell and if you're lucky they dont through away the key, you dirty scum? (Dont even get me started on what people recieve for something like a speeding ticket or staying too long at a parking space) (Or Maxine Carr, with her 'new identity' (shakes head)) :soapbox:
Anyone else got dumb laws?

Weird, only us two have and use a military? Odd. And I'm a fan of Bush, but no way he builds machinery, 50/50 he can spell it.

i hate how our parents pay tony blair and his cronies their wages through tax- and how do they earn these wages- by letting in asylum seekers who sponge of the system and take jobs that redundant, british citizens desperatley need, or invest in a police force that are more inclined in arresting under-age drinkers and fining people who drop litter then they are in tracking paedophiles and murderers etc.

Did you get ALL of that from the Daily Mail by any chance?

yeah, why do they keep those ****ing murderers alive once convicted by DNA alive? We gotta keep them alive so what? They can't work, they can't be trusted to reabilitate, and if they ever escaped, they would kill again...and we are paying for that?

actually, i got it from myself, its how i feel..funnily enough.

You ever thought that the reason migrants take those jobs is because of the creation of an underclass by the previous government who decide not to work?

Blaming immigration for the problems in this country is not only misguided, it's terribly, terribly incorrect.

it seems you do not understand my post, i didnt blame immigration, i blame the government- immigration is just one of the aspects they have failed to deal with adequatly. and does it seem as if i favour the previous government? i do not think so, british government has been a shambles for 30 years.

The British government has done a great job on immigration. The problem stems from illegal immigrants who are catching a ride in on the backs of lorries, which are, without checking every single vehicle that goes through Dover, Folkestone, Hull etc every day, impossible to control.

Britain actually accepts less immigrants than 16 other European countries, so all the stuff you read about Britain being the world's dumping ground for asylum seekers is right wing propaganda.

Our country was founded on immigration, it is our driving force.

Asylum seekers cannot work. Those that have been granted asylum have a right to work, and I hope you want them too otherwise you'll be paying for their benefits. Those granted asylum are generally taking jobs noone else wants. If any of our citizens needed a job, they could go out today and get one, most of them have misplaced pride or outright lazyness and will not go for the jobs available.

Illegal immigrants are a very small problem, but since it can be a vote winner, governments make an issue out of it.

Anarchy doll, the reason we keep them alive is because any civilised country realises emotional revenge (which is all the death penalty is) has no place in a court of law. There are only two countries in the developed world that still have the death penalty, the US and Japan (although executions are infrequent). The US is the only developed country that still executes minors. From a fiscal point of view, it's cheaper to keep someone locked up for life, than go through the legal wranglings (and associated appeals) of a death sentence.

We definately have some stupid laws in the UK, most of which are health & safety related, or planning related. The gun laws are pretty stupid in this country. Live firing weapons are rightly banned, but so are sports weapons because of the Dunblane shootings. You now have to have a license for certain weapons. The silly thing is, anyone buying a gun with the intent to use it illegally, is going to do so on the black market.

Dave

Is suicide still against the law? If it is, thats pretty stupid.

not if you survive it, its causing distress to other people, i dont agree with it but i can see why this law exists.

Hmmm... I can sort of see why, but then its like the whole euthanasia thing. I think it should be allowed, but I understand why people think it shouldnt be aswell. Ah well, thats a completely different topic really...

Which are the stupid health and safety laws? They may seem stupid to those with a bit of intelligence, but trust me, there are people that if you don't tell them not to do such obvious things, they will. People/companies/government are just protecting their backs from lawsuits and other such complications, nothing wrong with that, lawsuits are expensive.

It is in UK, yeah

euthanasia and suicide are completely different, im pro euthanasia as it means ending somebodies terminal torment and suffering, but with suicide theres always another way out, regardless of whether the person can identify it. everyone goes through depression and general bad periods in their life, i just think its selfish to put the people you love through even greater torment just because you feel you cant deal with it. ok, people who are bullied for example, i do empathise with them, but killing yourself isnt the way to sort it out. you join clubs to make new freinds, you talk to people, you stand up to the ****s who push you around. finally, i think suicide is so stupid considering the future offers many new oppurtunities and riches- and considering a large number of people who kill themselves are below the age of 25, its just a waste.

Yeah I agree with all that, suicides not the way to go, but I wouldnt put a law against it. I dont understand why someone would have thought "Yes, lets punish them even though theyre dead".. It doesnt make any sense to me. And euthanasia should be legal, theres no more to it than that.

i think the whole point of this law against suicide is to put it into practice if you survive......which is likely to make the "offender" feel much better.

yea government sucks

The laws against suicide - aside from the moralistic aspect - is to protect insurance companies. They will not payout life insurance if the deceased commited suicide.

I see no reason why euthanasia should not be allowed (with strict controls). Some people are suffering so badly, and are never going to get better. Do we have a right to prolong their pain?

Dave

i went to a european conference in Paris a month or two ago and they said England is the 3rd highest. This was stated by labour, conservative and lib dem representatives. im pretty sure my statistics are a helluvalot more reliable than yours. I've no doubt your information is equally left-wing counterattack propaganda.
Just for the record - Stu actually detests the right-wing viewpoint. Thank yoh.

indeed i do, i disagree with basically everything the conservative party stand for.