Stupid Governent Laws Etc (single, Europe, quote, Ching)

franscar · 02-25-2005, 09:23 AM

The British government has done a great job on immigration. The problem stems from illegal immigrants who are catching a ride in on the backs of lorries, which are, without checking every single vehicle that goes through Dover, Folkestone, Hull etc every day, impossible to control.

Britain actually accepts less immigrants than 16 other European countries, so all the stuff you read about Britain being the world's dumping ground for asylum seekers is right wing propaganda.

Our country was founded on immigration, it is our driving force.

Tommyrocker · 02-28-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by franscar

The British government has done a great job on immigration. The problem stems from illegal immigrants who are catching a ride in on the backs of lorries, which are, without checking every single vehicle that goes through Dover, Folkestone, Hull etc every day, impossible to control.

Britain actually accepts less immigrants than 16 other European countries, so all the stuff you read about Britain being the world's dumping ground for asylum seekers is right wing propaganda.

i went to a european conference in Paris a month or two ago and they said England is the 3rd highest. This was stated by labour, conservative and lib dem representatives. im pretty sure my statistics are a helluvalot more reliable than yours. I've no doubt your information is equally left-wing counterattack propaganda.
Just for the record - Stu actually detests the right-wing viewpoint. Thank yoh.

Sneer · 02-28-2005, 02:24 PM

indeed i do, i disagree with basically everything the conservative party stand for.

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 02-26-2005, 11:51 AM

Is suicide still against the law? If it is, thats pretty stupid.

Sneer · 02-26-2005, 12:04 PM

not if you survive it, its causing distress to other people, i dont agree with it but i can see why this law exists.

Sweet Jane · 02-26-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance

Is suicide still against the law? If it is, thats pretty stupid.

It is in UK, yeah

Sneer · 02-27-2005, 07:35 AM

euthanasia and suicide are completely different, im pro euthanasia as it means ending somebodies terminal torment and suffering, but with suicide theres always another way out, regardless of whether the person can identify it. everyone goes through depression and general bad periods in their life, i just think its selfish to put the people you love through even greater torment just because you feel you cant deal with it. ok, people who are bullied for example, i do empathise with them, but killing yourself isnt the way to sort it out. you join clubs to make new freinds, you talk to people, you stand up to the ****s who push you around. finally, i think suicide is so stupid considering the future offers many new oppurtunities and riches- and considering a large number of people who kill themselves are below the age of 25, its just a waste.

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 02-26-2005, 12:06 PM

Hmmm... I can sort of see why, but then its like the whole euthanasia thing. I think it should be allowed, but I understand why people think it shouldnt be aswell. Ah well, thats a completely different topic really...

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 02-27-2005, 09:04 AM

Yeah I agree with all that, suicides not the way to go, but I wouldnt put a law against it. I dont understand why someone would have thought "Yes, lets punish them even though theyre dead".. It doesnt make any sense to me. And euthanasia should be legal, theres no more to it than that.

Sneer · 02-27-2005, 09:07 AM

i think the whole point of this law against suicide is to put it into practice if you survive......which is likely to make the "offender" feel much better.

02-28-2005, 02:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,397	indeed i do, i disagree with basically everything the conservative party stand for. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

02-26-2005, 11:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,528	Is suicide still against the law? If it is, thats pretty stupid. __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!

02-26-2005, 12:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,397	not if you survive it, its causing distress to other people, i dont agree with it but i can see why this law exists. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

02-27-2005, 07:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,397	euthanasia and suicide are completely different, im pro euthanasia as it means ending somebodies terminal torment and suffering, but with suicide theres always another way out, regardless of whether the person can identify it. everyone goes through depression and general bad periods in their life, i just think its selfish to put the people you love through even greater torment just because you feel you cant deal with it. ok, people who are bullied for example, i do empathise with them, but killing yourself isnt the way to sort it out. you join clubs to make new freinds, you talk to people, you stand up to the **s who push you around. finally, i think suicide is so stupid considering the future offers many new oppurtunities and riches- and considering a large number of people who kill themselves are below the age of 25, its just a waste. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show**

02-26-2005, 12:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,528	Hmmm... I can sort of see why, but then its like the whole euthanasia thing. I think it should be allowed, but I understand why people think it shouldnt be aswell. Ah well, thats a completely different topic really... __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!

02-25-2005, 09:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
franscar Honky Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 667	The British government has done a great job on immigration. The problem stems from illegal immigrants who are catching a ride in on the backs of lorries, which are, without checking every single vehicle that goes through Dover, Folkestone, Hull etc every day, impossible to control. Britain actually accepts less immigrants than 16 other European countries, so all the stuff you read about Britain being the world's dumping ground for asylum seekers is right wing propaganda. Our country was founded on immigration, it is our driving force.

02-27-2005, 09:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,528	Yeah I agree with all that, suicides not the way to go, but I wouldnt put a law against it. I dont understand why someone would have thought "Yes, lets punish them even though theyre dead".. It doesnt make any sense to me. And euthanasia should be legal, theres no more to it than that. __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!

02-27-2005, 09:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,397	i think the whole point of this law against suicide is to put it into practice if you survive......which is likely to make the "offender" feel much better. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show