Is Meat Really Murder?

Arya Stark · 11-08-2010, 08:43 AM

It was in response to the idea that animals are useless.

~~Dirty~~ · 11-08-2010, 09:25 AM

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It was in response to the idea that animals are useless.

Did anyone even bring up that idea?

skaltezon · 11-08-2010, 10:40 AM

Their nonfood utility is beside the point.

Paedantic Basterd · 11-08-2010, 11:09 AM

They have an extremely valuable nonfood utility. It's called "the ecosystem".

Engine · 11-08-2010, 11:20 AM

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Whats your point? Are you having a tough time understanding the distinction between animals and humans? If so I can try to spell it out for ya.

I think it's already been pointed out a bunch of times that humans are simply one more type of animal that populates the earth. Regardless of animals' behaviors there is absolutely no moral distinction between them. So no, thanks, I don't need any explanation from you.

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What's this have to do with anything?

What do you mean? It was a totally germane point. I would like to see you be mauled by a bear in order to humble you a little bit. I think you need to learn about humility since you believe that you are superior to non-human animals. You're not, that's all.

~~Dirty~~ · 11-08-2010, 11:31 AM

For reference, when I use 'animals' I AM referring to non-human animals.

I disagree. I think humans are superior. Top of the food chain, the smartest, etc. I don't put humans on pars with rats or livestock or any other animal.

As for being mauled by a bear, no thanks

~~Dirty~~ · 11-08-2010, 11:38 AM

and nobody is saying that animals are useless. Even aside from the fact that a lot of them provide very good meats. I'm just saying they taste good and I don't have any problem with killing livestock for food purposes.

Engine · 11-08-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

For reference, when I use 'animals' I AM referring to non-human animals.

For reference, you're using the word incorrectly.

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I disagree. I think humans are superior. Top of the food chain, the smartest, etc. I don't put humans on pars with rats or livestock or any other animal.

I know - that's why I tried to correct you. Food chains and intelligence aside, all animals are exactly 'on par' with each other, morally speaking.

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As for being mauled by a bear, no thanks

I don't blame you. It wouldn't mean anything if it happened, anyway. Just another animal-fight in which one maims or kills the other.

~~Dirty~~ · 11-08-2010, 12:23 PM

When 99% of people here 'animal' they don't think of humans. So keep in mind when I say animal I don't mean humans. I thought that was pretty much common sense, maybe others hear the word 'animal' and think of people. Not me.

Lol... Ok food chains and intelligence aside... Now why would you put them aside as if they don't exist? We are smarter and atop the food chain. What's the point in ignoring that?

Arya Stark · 11-08-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

When 99% of people here 'animal' they don't think of humans. So keep in mind when I say animal I don't mean humans. I thought that was pretty much common sense, maybe others hear the word 'animal' and think of people. Not me.

Lol... Ok food chains and intelligence aside... Now why would you put them aside as if they don't exist? We are smarter and atop the food chain. What's the point in ignoring that?

We're not smarter, we just have a different means of communication.

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Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	They have an extremely valuable nonfood utility. It's called "the ecosystem".

11-08-2010, 11:31 AM	#696 (permalink)
~~Dirty~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 981	For reference, when I use 'animals' I AM referring to non-human animals. I disagree. I think humans are superior. Top of the food chain, the smartest, etc. I don't put humans on pars with rats or livestock or any other animal. As for being mauled by a bear, no thanks

11-08-2010, 11:38 AM	#697 (permalink)
~~Dirty~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 981	and nobody is saying that animals are useless. Even aside from the fact that a lot of them provide very good meats. I'm just saying they taste good and I don't have any problem with killing livestock for food purposes.

11-08-2010, 12:23 PM	#699 (permalink)
~~Dirty~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 981	When 99% of people here 'animal' they don't think of humans. So keep in mind when I say animal I don't mean humans. I thought that was pretty much common sense, maybe others hear the word 'animal' and think of people. Not me. Lol... Ok food chains and intelligence aside... Now why would you put them aside as if they don't exist? We are smarter and atop the food chain. What's the point in ignoring that?