Is Meat Really Murder?

SATCHMO · 02-05-2010, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels

Meat isn't murder, but the meat industry is sick.
I watched a PETA video once, it almost converted me.

Yes. Meat is not murder, but in most cases it is cruelty and even torture.

Freebase Dali · 02-05-2010, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels

Meat isn't murder, but the meat industry is sick.
I watched a PETA video once, it almost converted me.

What did it show, in general?

duga · 02-05-2010, 07:27 PM

i have no issues eating meat. it is pretty damn tasty...and, as mentioned above, we are omnivores...so basically it is our nature. i'm not into hunting in any way, but my brother had an interesting idea about hunting our food just once, to really get an appreciation of what is going on when we eat meat. we are so shut off and sheltered from the process of where our food comes from that we don't realize it really does mean a living thing has to die.

but yeah fast food in the US is disgusting. i was basically on a fish diet while i was in asia, and i never felt healthier....then i got back here and dropped a whopper bomb on my stomach. the bathroom was my home for the next few hours.

gunnels · 02-05-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

What did it show, in general?

The animals in their pens, the beak removal of chickens, and lots of exsanguination.
The video looked old and may have been outdated, but it was still pretty bad.

Freebase Dali · 02-05-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels

The animals in their pens, the beak removal of chickens, and lots of exsanguination.
The video looked old and may have been outdated, but it was still pretty bad.

Was it just in one factory?

gunnels · 02-05-2010, 07:45 PM

I don't remember tbh.

Freebase Dali · 02-05-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels

I don't remember tbh.

Just wondering. I know it's pretty standard for the meat industry to be brutal in most respects... but I would expect an organization who's against the entire concept to only show the worst of the bunch.

Engine · 02-05-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Yes. Meat is not murder, but in most cases it is cruelty and even torture.

This is the best answer I've seen here. I have not eaten meat for almost 20 years because I have always lived in a society that uses torture and cruelty in their animal farming practices. That, and I don't need it for nutrition no matter what type of fucking teeth I have.
On the other hand, if I had to eat meat to live (like if the world was post-apocalyptic or something), of course I would kill and eat animals. Until then I don't have a reason to eat meat - only reasons not to.

Freebase Dali · 02-05-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

This is the best answer I've seen here. I have not eaten meat for almost 20 years because I have always lived in a society that uses torture and cruelty in their animal farming practices. That, and I don't need it for nutrition no matter what type of fucking teeth I have.
On the other hand, if I had to eat meat to live (like if the world was post-apocalyptic or something), of course I would kill and eat animals. Until then I don't have a reason to eat meat - only reasons not to.

So you just don't want to fund the practice of animal farming/manufacturing? That's the reason?

I know you know that you're not making a difference and never will. Also, I respect matters of principle, but if there's another cause, I'm interested in hearing it.
Just because there are other protein sources usually isn't a sole negotiator in matters that involve rejecting your omnivorous nature.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-05-2010, 08:41 PM

As the definition of murder is unlawful killing. I'd have to say no it isn't at all.

02-05-2010, 07:27 PM	#43 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	i have no issues eating meat. it is pretty damn tasty...and, as mentioned above, we are omnivores...so basically it is our nature. i'm not into hunting in any way, but my brother had an interesting idea about hunting our food just once, to really get an appreciation of what is going on when we eat meat. we are so shut off and sheltered from the process of where our food comes from that we don't realize it really does mean a living thing has to die. but yeah fast food in the US is disgusting. i was basically on a fish diet while i was in asia, and i never felt healthier....then i got back here and dropped a whopper bomb on my stomach. the bathroom was my home for the next few hours. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

02-05-2010, 08:41 PM	#50 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	As the definition of murder is unlawful killing. I'd have to say no it isn't at all. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.