Is Meat Really Murder?

MAStudent · 02-08-2010, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

Whats your stance on beating your meat? Or someone elses meat?

It is very convenient to beat my own meat, but sometimes I outsource it to my girlfriend

That why I buy her shoes!

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-08-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MAStudent

It is very convenient to beat my own meat, but sometimes I outsource it to my girlfriend

That why I buy her shoes!

**** nigga you buy her shoes for handjobs only?
Back in my day I had to **** for my shoes.

Crazy kids.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 02-08-2010, 02:23 PM

/derailed

Guybrush · 02-08-2010, 08:59 PM

I wonder why Vegangelica hasn't posted in here yet?

Anyways, vegetarianism makes perfect sense from a sustainability point of view - as pointed out by others like Jackhammer. Put very simply, the energy you get from eating beef comes from the sun. It was first harvested by grass which does photosynthesis and then the cow ate it and turned it into cow meat. The thing is the cow uses a lot of that energy to do other things, like power all it's cellular processes and so on. In the end, you need many kilograms of grass to make one kilogram of cow. Cutting out the cow and eating the grass is much more economical.

We can't eat grass, of course, but just switch if for veggies.

A cynical argument against the sustainability point of view is that the world human population is doomed to grow way beyond the carrying capacity of our planet no matter what we do. It is inevitable and the more people we are when that happens, the more will suffer and the more damage we'll do to our planet and it's ecosystems.

On a more optimistic note - for those who are vegetarians because of animal suffering, I'm quite confident it's just a matter of time before we start growing our meat in petri dishes. Stem cell technology food! First someone has to do it and then it will have to get really cheap so that the industry will make the switch and then the big meat industries can grow meat in factories while some small farmers can possibly stay afloat in the meat market if they can make products that are able to compete in regards to taste etc.

It'll take a while, but I believe it's the future.

storymilo · 02-08-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

I wonder why Vegangelica hasn't posted in here yet?

Anyways, vegetarianism makes perfect sense from a sustainability point of view - as pointed out by others like Jackhammer. Put very simply, the energy you get from eating beef comes from the sun. It was first harvested by grass which does photosynthesis and then the cow ate it and turned it into cow meat. The thing is the cow uses a lot of that energy to do other things, like power all it's cellular processes and so on. In the end, you need many kilograms of grass to make one kilogram of cow. Cutting out the cow and eating the grass is much more economical.

We can't eat grass, of course, but just switch if for veggies.

A cynical argument against the sustainability point of view is that the world human population is doomed to grow way beyond the carrying capacity of our planet no matter what we do. It is inevitable and the more people we are when that happens, the more will suffer and the more damage we'll do to our planet and it's ecosystems.

On a more optimistic note - for those who are vegetarians because of animal suffering, I'm quite confident it's just a matter of time before we start growing our meat in petri dishes. Stem cell technology food! First someone has to do it and then it will have to get really cheap so that the industry will make the switch and then the big meat industries can grow meat in factories while some small farmers can possibly stay afloat in the meat market if they can make products that are able to compete in regards to taste etc.

It'll take a while, but I believe it's the future.

Sorry but, I only eat my meat slaughtered.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-08-2010, 10:08 PM

Still wouldn't eat it.

ElephantSack · 02-08-2010, 10:16 PM

I'm just a fan of food in general. I'm not glorifying or justifying the mass enslavement and slaughter of certain creatures, but I also recognize that human beings are designed to be omnivorous. Not to mention a creature that has experienced adrenaline in it's life tastes different than something that spent it's entire life in a warehouse or a cage. Venison in particular makes me feel energized after I eat it.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-08-2010, 10:17 PM

Venison smells like rotten eggs when it cooks

My mama made venison chilli tonight ughh

ElephantSack · 02-08-2010, 10:21 PM

Sensitive olfactory?

I would eat the fuck out of some venison chili.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-08-2010, 10:24 PM

Guess so.

I like my vegan chili

No one in my house has the decency to like, ever take meat out of the things we eat at dinner so I always have to make my own food

02-08-2010, 08:59 PM	#114 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I wonder why Vegangelica hasn't posted in here yet? Anyways, vegetarianism makes perfect sense from a sustainability point of view - as pointed out by others like Jackhammer. Put very simply, the energy you get from eating beef comes from the sun. It was first harvested by grass which does photosynthesis and then the cow ate it and turned it into cow meat. The thing is the cow uses a lot of that energy to do other things, like power all it's cellular processes and so on. In the end, you need many kilograms of grass to make one kilogram of cow. Cutting out the cow and eating the grass is much more economical. We can't eat grass, of course, but just switch if for veggies. A cynical argument against the sustainability point of view is that the world human population is doomed to grow way beyond the carrying capacity of our planet no matter what we do. It is inevitable and the more people we are when that happens, the more will suffer and the more damage we'll do to our planet and it's ecosystems. On a more optimistic note - for those who are vegetarians because of animal suffering, I'm quite confident it's just a matter of time before we start growing our meat in petri dishes. Stem cell technology food! First someone has to do it and then it will have to get really cheap so that the industry will make the switch and then the big meat industries can grow meat in factories while some small farmers can possibly stay afloat in the meat market if they can make products that are able to compete in regards to taste etc. It'll take a while, but I believe it's the future. __________________ Something Completely Different

02-08-2010, 10:16 PM	#117 (permalink)
ElephantSack Man vs. Wild Turkey Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 948	I'm just a fan of food in general. I'm not glorifying or justifying the mass enslavement and slaughter of certain creatures, but I also recognize that human beings are designed to be omnivorous. Not to mention a creature that has experienced adrenaline in it's life tastes different than something that spent it's entire life in a warehouse or a cage. Venison in particular makes me feel energized after I eat it. __________________ OF THE SUN

02-08-2010, 10:21 PM	#119 (permalink)
ElephantSack Man vs. Wild Turkey Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 948	Sensitive olfactory? I would eat the fuck out of some venison chili. __________________ OF THE SUN

02-08-2010, 02:23 PM	#113 (permalink)
~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	/derailed

02-08-2010, 10:08 PM	#116 (permalink)
~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	Still wouldn't eat it.

02-08-2010, 10:17 PM	#118 (permalink)
~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	Venison smells like rotten eggs when it cooks My mama made venison chilli tonight ughh

02-08-2010, 10:24 PM	#120 (permalink)
~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	Guess so. I like my vegan chili No one in my house has the decency to like, ever take meat out of the things we eat at dinner so I always have to make my own food