Love

Arya Stark · 05-05-2010, 09:30 AM

I feel as if it means:

I think we should be together, but everything that happens is keeping us apart.

I'm obviously taking it in a more dramatic way, but that's how I read it.

"I'd be so lucky if things happened differently. Causes and effects aren't always the way you want them to be. She looks for patterns, something regular, repetitive, but the world doesn't always turn out that way."

Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but that's what I got.
I could write more, but let me know if this makes sense/seems to be going in the write direction.

VEGANGELICA · 05-05-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

I have a question for anyone good at decoding song lyrics or soppy poems that people choose to express themselves in. This is kinda lame, but a guy who I know quite well (we are not involved nor have we ever been involved) posted these song lyrics to me online today:

.......I'd be the luckiest man in the universe, if cause and effect didn't get there first, but she (she being you kate) keeps looking for patterns, and the world just happens.....

He added in the "she being you kate" part (my name is Kate.) What does this even mean?! I want to know!

I agree with AwwSugar. I think he's saying he's certain he wants to be with you, but he's not sure how you feel because you look at life more cerebrally, and you both let life come between the two of you without stating feelings openly. Also, I think he's saying that he's a little chicken to say he has strong feelings for you.

I looked up the lyrics from this song, "Deja Vu," by Something for Kate, which helped me come to my conclusion about what he's saying. Here are the full lyrics:

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"Deja Vu" by Something for Kate

Light globes wash up, all along the beach.
And they light me up with, and they light me up with certainty.
Well she calculates, coincidence, and circumstance and turbulence.
Gotta see what it is, and it's everything, and it's endless.

'Cause baby can't see through, all this matter and makeup and dÃ©jÃ vu.
Yeah we drift here alone, with nothing to do.
Until one of us makes the other one come true.

She wants to meet her fate, but travel by free will.
But you can't have both and you can't stand still, still, still.
I'd be the luckiest man in the universe, if cause and effect doesn't get there first.
But she, keeps looking for patterns, and the world just happens.

'Cause baby can't see through, all this matter and makeup and dÃ©jÃ vu.
Yeah we drift here alone, with nothing to do.
Until one of us makes the other one come true.
Yeah one of us makes the other one come true.

Yeah 'cause baby can't see through,
through all this matter and makeup and dÃ©jÃ vu.
Yeah we drift here alone, we drift here alone.
Yeah we drift here alone, we drift here alone.
Yeah we drift here alone, with nothin' to do.
Until one of us makes the other one come true.
Yeah one of us makes the other one come true.
She said these questions don't answer like other questions do.
So just let me be here with you.
SOMETHING FOR KATE - DÃ©JÃ* VU LYRICS

Arya Stark · 05-05-2010, 10:47 AM

Yeah, exactly.
Right before that line, it's basically saying that she wants to meet the one for her but she wants to kind of "go with the flow."

VEGANGELICA · 05-05-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

Yeah, exactly.
Right before that line, it's basically saying that she wants to meet the one for her but she wants to kind of "go with the flow."

Yep, I think those lines you point out are the crucial ones in the song. I think they say that she wants to just sort of fall into love but at the same time make decisions about whom to love, so perhaps she is a little caught and isn't taking many steps to make that connection (with the singer):

"She wants to meet her fate, but travel by free will.
But you can't have both and you can't stand still, still, still."

Flyingpig437 · 05-05-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jayfin3

Have you ever been in love? Did you get over it? Do you believe in love?

Only once.Most amazing thing ever. I'm over it now though 'cause I'm too old for that kinda feeling...i think anyway. Now it's not quite the same.

thomasracer56 · 05-05-2010, 11:10 PM

there really is no questioning of it. it takes enough faith and mutual respect. my girlfriend and I are 7 months since we started dating, and no argument has been involved. trust them as they trust you, or there's no strength. remember, statistics and all the other bs cannot tell you anything, real proof is necessary, with all the "self-help books" and "guides" out there. your faith and willingness to change to further everyone's ends.

Astronomer · 05-06-2010, 01:22 AM

Wow, VEGANGELICA and AwwSugar, thanks!

I was thinking along the same lines, and took the first part of it as rather suggestive. But I'm too afraid to approach him about it because it would be really embarrassing if I got it wrong and he was just randomly posting lyrics to me...

Arya Stark · 05-06-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

Wow, VEGANGELICA and AwwSugar, thanks!

I was thinking along the same lines, and took the first part of it as rather suggestive. But I'm too afraid to approach him about it because it would be really embarrassing if I got it wrong and he was just randomly posting lyrics to me...

He wasn't just randomly posting them, because he told you "that's you."
But I can see why that would still be a bit embarrassing, I'm the same way.
Say something like, "So I listened to the song."
And see what he says back.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 03-30-2013, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermione

hahaha

I'll give you a serious answer

Yes, I believe in love. Actual love though, I have only recently learned the difference, as in what love really is, rather than the lust, infatuation, or obsession we often mistake as being love. While I do think attraction is obviously important, love is something you have to work at, and sometimes it's hard and nervewracking and you have to make compromises you don't like but when you have it, and give it, to someone who gives it back to you and you are equals in that, then it is the best thing in the world. I've also had a lot of men who've claimed to love me, and it's the same story, obsession, infatuation, lust. To have someone love you for you, rather than making you into an idea, when they are seeing you as a real person,it's awesome.

ha

i had dreams once

**Janszoon** · 03-30-2013, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermione

i had dreams once

05-05-2010, 11:10 PM	#106 (permalink)
thomasracer56 Still Crazy Nutso! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 148	there really is no questioning of it. it takes enough faith and mutual respect. my girlfriend and I are 7 months since we started dating, and no argument has been involved. trust them as they trust you, or there's no strength. remember, statistics and all the other bs cannot tell you anything, real proof is necessary, with all the "self-help books" and "guides" out there. your faith and willingness to change to further everyone's ends. Last edited by thomasracer56; 05-05-2010 at 11:13 PM. Reason: subject-verb agreement issue(grammar)

05-06-2010, 01:22 AM	#107 (permalink)
Astronomer we are stardust Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,894	Wow, VEGANGELICA and AwwSugar, thanks! I was thinking along the same lines, and took the first part of it as rather suggestive. But I'm too afraid to approach him about it because it would be really embarrassing if I got it wrong and he was just randomly posting lyrics to me... __________________