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savannah 12-12-2009 09:20 PM

its not like i killed someone,...but
 
i've recently faced, and have been forced to face some of my past transgressions

its been a pretty rough look in the mirror, and while i'm not ready to completely get into what is going on,....but i didnt kill anyone,....i have hurt some people, i have done some very self destructive things, i've been untrustworthy

and its hard
i feel selfish crying over it,...crying over things i've done and how they've effected me
i feel selfish that its is later, rather than sooner, i worry about the effect i have had on other people

my question to you is,....

once a bad person, always a bad person?

Arya Stark 12-12-2009 09:37 PM

I think once you can take responsibility for it, you can take control of it.
You may not have been good before, but if you want to change it, you can.

NSW 12-12-2009 09:43 PM

I wish I could offer some fantastically wonderful advice, but I really can't, as I'm kinda going through the same thing right now. I almost broke down in the vitamin aisle at the grocery the other day, looking at the centrum and thinking about something stupid I said to my husband.

but anyway, the one thing I can say is that no one has to be a bad person. and just because you did bad things in the past doesn't mean you were ever a bad person. it just means you're imperfect like the rest of us.

Thrice 12-12-2009 09:46 PM

Pee Em sucka!

Neapolitan 12-12-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah (Post 783619)
i feel selfish crying over it,...crying over things i've done and how they've effected me
i feel selfish that its is later, rather than sooner, i worry about the effect i have had on other people

my question to you is,....

once a bad person, always a bad person?

"It's not where you come from but where you are going." Everyone has a selfish past and when they grow as a person they become less selfish and more wise. Don't judge yourself for crying, that is part of the healing process. So you should not consider yourself a bad person.

savannah 12-12-2009 11:01 PM

thanks guys,...
and thank you wifey

i've calmed down a bit now
thank gawd i live in a town with lots of short bridges, with my luck i would just mame myself
and then i would be depressed AND disfigured

Freebase Dali 12-13-2009 12:46 AM

Goddamn, woman... Move to New York or something.
This southern life you're black holing is doing you more harm than good.

Arya Stark 12-13-2009 01:24 AM

NY<3
Agreed.

Schizotypic 12-13-2009 03:42 AM

Here are a couple questions to think over before I offer any advice:
  • Can you control much outside yourself; other people, events, etc?
  • If you don't see your part in things, even if they are small, how could you ever control yourself, your actions, how you respond?

I was only asking those to help you realize the point I'm about to make. Realizing the things you have done and your part in things is the only real control you have in this world, how could you control anything but your part?

What you are going through, to me, is a beautiful process of self discovery. Finding our own parts in our resentments, realizing that because there need to be two people for any tiff, that even those we believe had only wronged us, we had also had some wrong-doing in: that is the start of an entirely different ball game.

Remember the difference between guilt and shame. Guilt is feeling bad for what you have done, shame is feeling bad for who you are as a person. Us humans are all equals, it is a horizontal line and not a vertical line we sit on. Do not compare, and make sure never to let yourself be ashamed.. if that is what you're feeling.

In the end the most important thing to remember is very simple, but takes much time to fully accept: you are where you are. Most people reach a point like this, I have literally seen some do it at sixteen and others at seventy six- and there isn't a lick of comparison of the two in my mind. Each person here does their own thing on their own time, and it is OKAY. It really is. What you have done is what you have done, and thank the good she-forces of the universe (or whatever) for the past you had made, for it has led you here, to this beautiful process of self discovery.

Just be sure to make amends when it won't hurt anyone, try your best to keep your word and when ready change your actions, remember what you have control over and what you don't, and work toward being inheritly and deeply accepting of who you are and where you are- may love be with you as you trudge the road of happy destiny and congratulations on your look into the mirror... enjoy the intense dreams.

Hope I helped, Schizo.

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 783695)
Goddamn, woman... Move to New York or something.
This southern life you're black holing is doing you more harm than good.

See, now, way I look at it the OP's post made me think her future looked bright. Maybe you should be taking notes instead of criticizing, eh? Ever look in the mirror, pal? Harder then it sounds, takes balls too MoFo.

right-track 12-13-2009 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savannah (Post 783619)
once a bad person, always a bad person?

No. I think the trick with life is learning to be comfortable with who you are.
It starts with being honest with yourself and learning from the mistakes you make. The important part is not to repeat them.
So don't go being too hard on yourself. You're only human.

TheBig3 12-13-2009 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 783695)
Goddamn, woman... Move to New York or something.
This southern life you're black holing is doing you more harm than good.

I generally think Dali posts drunk. But this time I'd agree with him. Though I'd advocate for everyone to live in a big city.

Janszoon 12-13-2009 10:16 AM

Emo threads FTW.

savannah 12-13-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 783786)
Emo threads FTW.

thank you alex


sorry i freaked out everyone
i'll be normal in a day or two

and no, i aint movein to NYC

Burning Down 12-13-2009 12:15 PM

I always found that yoga and meditation and such work wonders when one is feeling like you are. That's up to you though. Don't be too hard on yourself - you seem like a nice person!

jackhammer 12-13-2009 01:03 PM

You won't be the first and you won't be the last, life is nothing without good and bad and all those (oh so true) cliches.

Scarlett O'Hara 12-13-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savannah (Post 783619)
i've recently faced, and have been forced to face some of my past transgressions

its been a pretty rough look in the mirror, and while i'm not ready to completely get into what is going on,....but i didnt kill anyone,....i have hurt some people, i have done some very self destructive things, i've been untrustworthy

and its hard
i feel selfish crying over it,...crying over things i've done and how they've effected me
i feel selfish that its is later, rather than sooner, i worry about the effect i have had on other people

my question to you is,....

once a bad person, always a bad person?

No point in crying over spilt milk. What's done is done. There is always room for second chances. They don't come without a lot of effort and commitment, and to be honest, I've been through something similar. I constantly was trying to meet the expectations of my boyfriend who wanted me to tell him what I was doing all the time, get his permission to be around guys, to text back straight away etc. I found it too hard because that's not me. I am too independent. So after many a fight, we've just broken up for good.

My advice to you is just apologise and be honest to those you've hurt, tell them how it's made you feel and leave it there. All you can do now is move on and not repeat the same mistakes. Also a little kiss-ass never goes a stray.

music_phantom13 12-13-2009 09:23 PM

Just make sure you look at all the bad things you've done as the past, and learn from your mistakes so it won't happen again. We all do stupid **** sometimes. If you were truly a bad person, you wouldn't be reflecting on what you've done and feeling guilty at all. I've been through all that though and I gotta admit, it is not enjoyable by any means.

333 12-13-2009 11:02 PM

Am I the only one with the balls to ask?

What have you done, Savannah?

Sansa Stark 12-13-2009 11:08 PM

If you question whether you are good or not, I think that this means that you are not a bad person

Fruitonica 12-14-2009 01:59 AM

That's a pretty forgiving criteria.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 12-14-2009 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 784175)
If you question whether you are good or not, I think that this means that you are not a bad person

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruitonica (Post 784208)
That's a pretty forgiving criteria.

yeah no kidding. not close to the truth at all.

Freebase Dali 12-14-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 783768)
I generally think Dali posts drunk. But this time I'd agree with him. Though I'd advocate for everyone to live in a big city.

Correct.
I don't even remember posting that.

right-track 12-14-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 784309)
Correct.
I don't even remember posting that.

I have the opposite problem...unfortunately. :/

Sansa Stark 12-14-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN (Post 784209)
yeah no kidding. not close to the truth at all.

I didn't say that it made you a good person, just that you're not too far gone if you question it. Besides, how can it be truth or untruth, it's a matter of opinion

ElephantSack 12-14-2009 01:29 PM

"Have you ever heard the philosophy that once a man admits that his transgressions were wrong, then he is immediately forgiven for all wrong-doing?" Pulp Fiction

I don't live by what movies tell me. But even if you're not religious, there are such things as repent, prostration and contrition. Learning experiences, folks. Gotta have 'em.

iron9567 12-14-2009 03:06 PM

just a sign that you're growing as a person. What did you do that got you all bothered like this?


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