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DearJenny

Monkeys do whatever it takes to get it done apparently.....

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VEGANGELICA

I thought fans of the music group Tool (such as yourself) would appreciate the humor of seeing our close relative, the tool-using chimpanzee, doing exactly what people would do with *their* tools, family jewels, bits and pieces, what have you...although usually sans frog. I was also creating a play on words: the chimpanzee is using a tool (the frog/toad...don't know which it is) on his *own* tool. He is using two tools at once!

The irony I see in the video is that humans not long ago thought only our species used tools, yet this video proves scientists wrong while also showing that people aren't very different from other animals in another respect: tool-use is interesting to chimp and human alike. The fact that humans are so fascinated, amused, repelled, and again fascinated by sexual videos shows (to me) how closely related we are to the chimpanzees and other animals. Humans and chimps (and many other animals) show the signs of experiencing pleasure, pain, fear, anger, love, curiosity, callous disregard, etc.

I use more words than a chimp would, though.

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Bane of your existence

It's a monkey face raping a frog. You're looking way to deep in to it.

Guybrush

Erica's a biologist and looking deep into that kind of stuff is part what biologists do.

.. And if you wanna put it like that, at least say it's an ape face raping a toad.

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VEGANGELICA

Oh! So it *is* a toad! I didn't know, though I suspected. Thanks for that information, Tore.

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Guybrush

Well, it looks like what I typically think of as toad.

The way I understand it, toad is used to describe frogs with certain morphological characteristics rather than a taxonomical clade. There is a family however, bufonidae, which is sometimes referred to as "true toads". We have only one toad in this country and it's a true toad, the common toad Bufo bufo. It is quite morphologically distinct from the few frog species we have here, most specifically in that it's larger, fatter and wartier (poisonous). The frogs are leaner, proportionally longer legged and have smooth skin.

I'm assuming this is a toad because it looks like one and actually quite looks like our own bufo bufo, but my comment was based on looks rather than any taxonomical certainty.



Calling a toad a frog is okay in my book, but I think some distinction should be made between monkeys and apes. This thread would have made the librarian furious.



A simple although hardly foolproof distinction is that if it has a tail, it's a monkey and if it doesn't, it's an ape. It's not good enough for biologists (f.ex you still have lemures), but for laymans it should usually be good enough.

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VEGANGELICA

Heh heh...this picture does closely match how I looked when I read the thread title that called a chimp a monkey. (Just kidding! Actually, I wasn't frustrated...I just saw an opportunity to discuss the difference between monkeys and apes like us.)

Thanks for the toad/frog info. I did not know the bufo bufo is in Norway. Bufo bufo. Bufo bufo. Oh, I like that. But anyway, what struck me about the video was how BIG the toad was. We don't have toads like that around here. I also wondered why the video ended so quickly. I hoped the chimp *was* a bonobo (mostly vegetarian) and didn't end up chomping the toad as dinner after probing the interior of its mouth, which obviously intrigued the chimpanzee.

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Guybrush

We get lots of them down south where I'm from. I love toads! Maybe not as much as that chimp, but I find them to be very likeable.

During summer when I travel back south, I sometimes like to drive around in the forests / mountains at night and/or very early morning to look for animals. Typically, there are hares, elk, deer and badgers but if there's been a rainstorm there are toads everywhere. On some of the roads, I have to drive zigzag superslow to avoid squashing them. Considering they can get very old in captivity, I hate the idea of killing one because of something as trivial as driving a car. Sometimes, if I see a particularly big one or one I can't reliably avoid, I get out of the car, pick it up and have a look at it. They're cute lil fatties

Probably not too good at pleasing though I'd guess

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VEGANGELICA

Ha ha! That made me lol.

Sweet story, Tore the Toad-Saver! I myself have a thing for tree frogs with their little bulbous fingers and the way they sit so small and warm in my hand with their eyes bugging up. Whenever I spot a frog in our backyard I am quite delighted. Not as delighted as the chimp, of course, but still...quite pleased.

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