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View Poll Results: What's your Myer-Briggs personality type?
ENFJ 0 0%
ENFP 2 7.41%
ENTJ 1 3.70%
ENTP 2 7.41%
ESFJ 0 0%
ESFP 0 0%
ESTJ 0 0%
ESTP 0 0%
INFJ 1 3.70%
INFP 4 14.81%
INTJ 5 18.52%
INTP 7 25.93%
ISFJ 0 0%
ISFP 1 3.70%
ISTP 1 3.70%
ISTJ 3 11.11%
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There are ranges of competence. I would argue that even the form we filled out for this thread has a bit of psychological competency.
I'm tellin' you, you're going to have a hard time finding a qualified psychologist to agree with that statement.

Let me preface this next part by disclaiming that it's meant for the thread topic and isn't directed at you, Eric.

You wouldn't take an online quiz to find out if you had gout, would you? Why are people willing to make assumptions about their mental health based on internet advice?

The thing about legitimate psychological tests is that they're designed by psychologists and statisticians to eliminate biases and distractions, be standardized for test norms, provide reliable and accurate results, actually measure that which they are designed to, etc, and even on top of that there's context of responses to take into account, which is why a qualified psychologist needs to interpret the results.

The reality of this test is that it's not scored or administered by anyone with qualifications, it's not backed by any reliable source as a psychological testing tool, we have no idea how it's scored, there's no evidence of its power or accuracy as a measure, and we don't know whether the people who wrote and developed it are qualified to have composed such a thing.

Tests like these, which amount to being counterfeit knockoffs of legitimate tests, are just vague enough that any person can interpret a paragraph or question (written by someone who has never interacted with them and probably has no qualifications) as applying to them. Not only should people not report on their own assessments, but they absolutely by no means ever should be interpreting or scoring their own results.

I'm sorry, but I am studying to do these things as a living and internet pseudo-psychology makes me want to open my skull and squash my own brain in my fists like playdough. There is so much incompetence and misinformation present on the internet. Mental health is a serious issue and should be taken seriously.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm tellin' you, you're going to have a hard time finding a qualified psychologist to agree with that statement.

Let me preface this next part by disclaiming that it's meant for the thread topic and isn't directed at you, Eric.

You wouldn't take an online quiz to find out if you had gout, would you? Why are people willing to make assumptions about their mental health based on internet advice?

The thing about legitimate psychological tests is that they're designed by psychologists and statisticians to eliminate biases and distractions, be standardized for test norms, provide reliable and accurate results, actually measure that which they are designed to, etc, and even on top of that there's context of responses to take into account, which is why a qualified psychologist needs to interpret the results.

The reality of this test is that it's not scored or administered by anyone with qualifications, it's not backed by any reliable source as a psychological testing tool, we have no idea how it's scored, there's no evidence of its power or accuracy as a measure, and we don't know whether the people who wrote and developed it are qualified to have composed such a thing.

Tests like these, which amount to being counterfeit knockoffs of legitimate tests, are just vague enough that any person can interpret a paragraph or question (written by someone who has never interacted with them and probably has no qualifications) as applying to them. Not only should people not report on their own assessments, but they absolutely by no means ever should be interpreting or scoring their own results.

I'm sorry, but I am studying to do these things as a living and internet pseudo-psychology makes me want to open my skull and squash my own brain in my fists like playdough. There is so much incompetence and misinformation present on the internet. Mental health is a serious issue and should be taken seriously.
I'm not arguing whether or not the test would be considered valid by a mental health pro. I'm saying that it wasn't just made without any knowledge of psychology etc. It's bad, yes, but it's not ENTIRELY devoid of any psychological principles.

I have no issue with anything else you said.
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Your criterion for a "competent" test seem a bit extreme, but yea, this disorder test is bad.
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Your criterion for a "competent" test seem a bit extreme, but yea, this disorder test is bad.
That's what it takes for any diagnostic or statistical standards, absolutely.
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My test results coincide w what a couple of professionals have assessed about me in real life. One was an art therapist and the other, a psychiatrist. This was several yrs ago tho and i did notice what were, in my hum le opinion, a few flaws while taking it.
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I see what you're saying, that the person who devised the site has clearly read a wikipedia page, but I don't think we should encourage people to take misguided information about themselves seriously in regards to their health.
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I see what you're saying, that the person who devised the site has clearly read a wikipedia page, but I don't think we should encourage people to take misguided information about themselves seriously in regards to their health.
Yes and yes.

I do place some confidence in the MBTI metrics though, simply because how accurately my type describes me.
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I think it's rather easy to manipulate those tests though, if you know what you're looking for.

They're kind of vague questions.
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INTP - The Thinker

Logical, original, creative thinkers. Can become very excited about theories and ideas. Exceptionally capable and driven to turn theories into clear understandings. Highly value knowledge, competence and logic. Quiet and reserved, hard to get to know well. Individualistic, having no interest in leading or following others.


Hmm.. That's somewhat true, but only some of the time. I am pretty logical but when my heart tells me one thing and my mind another, I always go with my heart. So I have to question just how accurate these things are. I'm just me.
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INTP - The Thinker

Logical, original, creative thinkers. Can become very excited about theories and ideas. Exceptionally capable and driven to turn theories into clear understandings. Highly value knowledge, competence and logic. Quiet and reserved, hard to get to know well. Individualistic, having no interest in leading or following others.


Hmm.. That's somewhat true, but only some of the time. I am pretty logical but when my heart tells me one thing and my mind another, I always go with my heart. So I have to question just how accurate these things are. I'm just me.
It is as accurate as you want it to be. It's a bit similar to horoscope readings. Depends how hard you are looking for it to match up.
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