Is the Quality of MusicBanter Decreasing?

TheBig3 · 10-26-2009, 04:10 PM

I'll go back and read your leviathan here but before I let this get away. Troll members in my mind distract and digress a conversation with horribly clever, unfunny lines that in every way attempted to be funny.

And the best quality is not in the members journal section, the most sustained quality is in the members journal section. That being said I'll go back and read your allegations, and edit my thoughts in.

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Originally Posted by toretorden

I think perhaps counter wasn't the right word. Feel free to mentally replace it with "reply to"

Yes but you still implied I somehow said it was going downhill - which I didn't.

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Originally Posted by Schizotypic

Here's my question: Is this really a forum for those who love music to talk about it? Because album reviews feel to me something akin to a book report. For those members who have outside contact, when you talk to others about music, do you give speeches about your favorite albums? Do you tell your friend about all the stuff you looked-up on Wikipedia? I don't, I simply say I like this band, it's rad, I love how they do this or that.

I could use countless remarks I've come across but Big3 will make a good example for the point I'm trying to make, sorry Big3- I still think you're rad.

Big3, I get the idea that your definition of troll is members not posting research projects. Here you are claiming that MB's best quality is in the member journals and album reviews, I disagree.

Look-up the word quality, it basically means of superior grade. What you're stating is that research paper album reviews are superior to regular posts about music. Then you even go as far to claim superiority over those who post average posts by calling them trolls. In doing so, you also imply that only the most articulate and intellectually sound posts are worthy of MB, as everything else is not just there but actually spamming the forum. Has anyone else ever considered that the arrogant politics of MB is taking from the site? That these unwritten rules to be as dysfunctionally perfectionist as possible aren't fun?

All I'm saying friends is that maybe MB is just lightening-up a bit. I think as more people joined, the forum conscious started to change from wanting to write long paragraphs about music to just wanting to explore it, which MB is great for! The Albums You're Digging 2 thread is constantly giving me music, the new Member Journals popping-up are more honest and laid back then eight months ago, and mood is starting to feel the more and more like a human community then like a study session. Big3, earlier I said that I disagreed that the quality of MB is decreasing. My point is that the quality of MB isn't in the book reports, it's in the feeling of community. Actually I think the quality of MB is increasing.

Guys, vote classless society for MB!

As I stated earlier. I'm all for allowing the forums to ride the roller coaster of quality because we have a section where our long-time members who've been through most of this before and would like something a little more thought-provoking can find solace.

My definition of a troll member is, if you want a direct one, when I (for example) post something I feel is not being brought up, but ought to be and then is followed by 3 douche-clowns who want to argue off-topic conversations.

And thats honestly why I don't post about music much anymore. I figure why put effort into anything thats getting summarily dismissed by a ever increasing population of gnat-level interests that would rather flirt thread to thread like brawling squirrels than comment on anything.

Calling someone a troll doesn't claim my own superiority, it says their in the wrong thread. I.e. - hey assface, you just ruined my glorious genius by making some inside-jokey leet-speak comment no one but you and your other vagrant mall-rat friends find funny.

And I'm sorry but I disagree with your prognosis of what our journal reviews ought to be. If it was filled with one-liners like "its rad" I'd leave this site tomorrow and while some of you are thrilled by the thought of that, you'd wake up to your kingdom of wasteland being abandoned by anyone who hadn't huffed bactine through a wonderbread bag.

I hear what you're saying Schizotypic, this site can be horribly pedantic but its been much worse. You use to have to run your posts by a ****ing english professor for grammatical errors or you ran the risk of the next 8 posts dissecting it line by line.

And people are horirbly offensive, mean, and arrogant here - i'm always striving to be the best - but there are countless forums on the internet. Tons that cater to music and quality and spamming is what differentiates us from them. Many of us have carved out a home here where we can get new music, good reviews, and decent info about bands, music, tours, and tape trading.

Do we (I) put people off who come here? Probably, people leave for all sorts of reasons. But if you come here for music, you never had a problem. If you come here because you're a shut-in looking for a release and being an internet villain fulfills your needs well you came to the wrong forum.

Its in our best interest to preserve whats good about this forum, even if that can be a bit stodgy. I toss spammers, but I do very little to limit what people say. I'm abrasive, sure, but I believe people will either leave or step it up.

I don't know what to tell you, I think we have fundamental differences on this point but at no point have I ever asked anyone to write a book report, a novel, or a thesis. Length is not really what I consider the high mark of quality, or that people discuss philosophy or physics to achieve quality, but that people put thought into what they are writing.

Did you really sit with this idea? Do you mean what you say or are you posting to post? Talking with your friends is for talking with your friends. If I wanted to read 5 words reviews - I'd talk to my friends. I came and sought out a place on the internet where other people came to for the same thing, quality. Not length, not wikipedia quotes, but people who sat with something.