Is the Quality of MusicBanter Decreasing?

Darkest Hour · 10-24-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

It's because of the amount of posers who are more interested in projecting a self image instead of actually talk about music.

There are people here with 1000 posts or so and I have no idea what music they listen to. On a music forum that shouldn't be.

No, the regulars who are here post about music. At least most of them. We need more regulars.

BTown · 10-25-2009, 07:43 PM

I think there's plenty regulars.

I am always a bit reluctant to start a thread fearing that it's going to get locked due to me not searching hard enough like a lot of mine have been.

I guess that traces back to projecting a self image instead of wanting to talk about music.

Freebase Dali · 10-25-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

It's because of the amount of posers who are more interested in projecting a self image instead of actually talk about music.

There are people here with 1000 posts or so and I have no idea what music they listen to. On a music forum that shouldn't be.

Yea I'm guilty of that... Between helping endless amounts of people with their music production issues, computer issues, and having general banter that *omg* isn't related to endless bullshit discussions about who thinks what band is better or worse, or who can send each other the most pirated music at once, I just get a little bogged down.
Especially discouraging is when people like me DO come out and start trying to discuss their opinions about music and get into meaningful music debates, we get insulted endlessly by people like you and that kind of takes the motivation out of the whole thing.

I wouldn't expect you to understand that, because I've witnessed your attitude from day one and if you were capable, or willing, to care enough beyond your own perspective, you would have done so long ago.

Just don't presume to know what's going on with everyone who doesn't meet your expectations for what the ideal community member should be.

P.S. If you want to know what music I listen to, just ask. Otherwise, there are plenty of threads you're probably too good for that could answer your question.

music_phantom13 · 10-25-2009, 11:09 PM

I don't know, I mean I think that I have a good feel for the musical tastes of most members with over 1000 posts that are active. A lot of the new crowd, even with less than 500 posts, have clearly taken an interest in discussing music, and I certainly have a great feel for what they listen to. I think maybe people aren't posting as much these days? Who knows.

And there's nothing wrong with having fun with the games, as long as that's not the only thing you ever post.

~~Farfisa~~ · 10-25-2009, 11:39 PM

I would get more involved if people didn't just talk about Radiohead and other popular mainstream bands. I'm sort of alone on these boards taste wise, except Cardboard Adolescent, and that guy isn't excatly easy to talk to and be on the same level about things without being hyper intellegent.

Darkest Hour · 10-25-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships

I'm sort of alone on these boards taste wise

Haha, me too. Every member that shares my taste leaves really quick. It's amazing how many people come and post here for a week or two and are never seen again.

Guybrush · 10-26-2009, 09:35 AM

I moved this discussion to it's own thread as I think it's an interesting topic that deserves a thread.

I don't post that often in musical discussions because 9/10ths of the time, they're discussions I don't care about and there being such a high turnover of members (a lot join up and leave after a couple of weeks), a lot of the posts are made by people I don't know and whose opinions I don't really care about.

There are some people with tastes that I can relate to in the sense that if they like something, I think I might like it too. When they discuss music, I might do as well, but it happens rarer and rarer. I think if anyone wants to find out what I like, they'd have to check out my journal or my last.fm page or something to get a rough idea.

What I absolutely hate is people namedropping lists of artists and albums everyone should check out without writing up or giving any kind of reasons as to why we should. Especially when new guys do it, I just wanna swing the banhammer.

edit :

There's still a lot of quality content here, it's just I think most of it is tied up in journals and review threads and not so much the music discussions in the other forums.

TheBig3 · 10-26-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by toretorden

I think it's because there's a negative correlation between the amount of posters and the average post quality

I usually have little to add to the one-liners that litter our forums these days.

This is why I advocated for the journals in the first place. Through regulation we can ensure a safe haven for quality. The masses wax and wane with thought and intrigue, but the readers section should serve as a bulwark against the crap of the unwashed spammers.

If you think the forums are going down hill, put some thought into why that might be. The new regulars we've been picking up have been high powered trolls.

lucifer_sam · 10-26-2009, 10:23 AM

i'm not really a big fan of the pseudo-intellectual philosophical wankery that i see every so often, it's really just an exercise in intellectual masturbation. that and the politicization of this entire fucking forum, it gets super annoying after a while. it's like people come here with the explicit purpose to act with as much self-importance as possible.

TheBig3 · 10-26-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

i'm not really a big fan of the pseudo-intellectual philosophical wankery that i see every so often, it's really just an exercise in intellectual masturbation. that and the politicization of this entire fucking forum, it gets super annoying after a while. it's like people come here with the explicit purpose to act with as much self-importance as possible.

For example.

edit: and what I mean by that is what isn't intellectual but is trying to be?

10-25-2009, 07:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
BTown super cool Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 806	I think there's plenty regulars. I am always a bit reluctant to start a thread fearing that it's going to get locked due to me not searching hard enough like a lot of mine have been. I guess that traces back to projecting a self image instead of wanting to talk about music. __________________

10-26-2009, 09:35 AM	#17 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I moved this discussion to it's own thread as I think it's an interesting topic that deserves a thread. I don't post that often in musical discussions because 9/10ths of the time, they're discussions I don't care about and there being such a high turnover of members (a lot join up and leave after a couple of weeks), a lot of the posts are made by people I don't know and whose opinions I don't really care about. There are some people with tastes that I can relate to in the sense that if they like something, I think I might like it too. When they discuss music, I might do as well, but it happens rarer and rarer. I think if anyone wants to find out what I like, they'd have to check out my journal or my last.fm page or something to get a rough idea. What I absolutely hate is people namedropping lists of artists and albums everyone should check out without writing up or giving any kind of reasons as to why we should. Especially when new guys do it, I just wanna swing the banhammer. edit : There's still a lot of quality content here, it's just I think most of it is tied up in journals and review threads and not so much the music discussions in the other forums. __________________ Something Completely Different

10-26-2009, 10:23 AM	#19 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	i'm not really a big fan of the pseudo-intellectual philosophical wankery that i see every so often, it's really just an exercise in intellectual masturbation. that and the politicization of this entire fucking forum, it gets super annoying after a while. it's like people come here with the explicit purpose to act with as much self-importance as possible. __________________ first.am

10-25-2009, 11:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
music_phantom13 Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 942	I don't know, I mean I think that I have a good feel for the musical tastes of most members with over 1000 posts that are active. A lot of the new crowd, even with less than 500 posts, have clearly taken an interest in discussing music, and I certainly have a great feel for what they listen to. I think maybe people aren't posting as much these days? Who knows. And there's nothing wrong with having fun with the games, as long as that's not the only thing you ever post.

10-25-2009, 11:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
~~Farfisa~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,773	I would get more involved if people didn't just talk about Radiohead and other popular mainstream bands. I'm sort of alone on these boards taste wise, except Cardboard Adolescent, and that guy isn't excatly easy to talk to and be on the same level about things without being hyper intellegent.