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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-18-2017, 11:56 AM

i will when i get home but i clicked on it and read the headline and it made me barf. they're already showing a clear misunderstanding of just about everything he has said. there have been multiple instances of people taking him out of context or just straight up creating information that was never stated by he himself. but again, ill give it a look in a bit.

kibbeh · 02-18-2017, 11:59 AM

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i will when i get home but i clicked on it and read the headline and it made me barf. they're already showing a clear misunderstanding of just about everything he has said. there have been multiple instances of people taking him out of context or just straight up creating information that was never stated by he himself. but again, ill give it a look in a bit.

not really. he acts like muslims are the enemy of the entire world. he is an *******. i don't understand what people like him want to be honest. just kill the all muslims, will you be happy then???? is that his idea of peace?

my main issue with him is when he talks about muslims he's acting like he's talking about just one person who he knows very well. like all muslims are one. when they are not. they are like 1,300,000,000+. not one thing. NOT. ONE. THING.

DwnWthVwls · 02-18-2017, 12:02 PM

Huh? Are you also against Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Maajid Nawaz?

kibbeh · 02-18-2017, 12:03 PM

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Huh?

haven't seen this, i'll watch it later

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-18-2017, 12:08 PM

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not really. he acts like muslims are the enemy of the entire world. he is an *******. i don't understand what people like him want to be honest. just kill the all muslims, will you be happy then???? is that his idea of peace?

no. if you listen to him speak he makes a clear distinction between the different religious groups under the umbrella. he never says that all muslims are the enemy or anything along those lines, but i do also think that there are some right-wing no minds who spin his words to help them prech their anti-muslim rhetoric.

he has also clarfied hundreds of times (literally) that he is not discussing every muslim, but he cannot make the distinction every time it comes up. people should be able to understand that he does not mean every single muslim.

djchameleon · 02-18-2017, 07:43 PM

Sam Harris and Bill Maher can go **** themselves when it comes to their views on Islam.

They keep swearing up and down that it's the most dangerous religion blah blah blah. I can't stand Sam Harris but I can tolerate Bill Maher. I just don't like his views on Islam and something else which I can't think of atm.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 02-18-2017, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Huh? Are you also against Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Maajid Nawaz?

Ayaan >>>

~~Cuthbert~~ · 02-18-2017, 07:49 PM

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he has also clarfied hundreds of times (literally) that he is not discussing every muslim, but he cannot make the distinction every time it comes up. people should be able to understand that he does not mean every single muslim.

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Doesn't matter how many times you repeat this though, he's gross! He's racist!

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-18-2017, 08:05 PM

i've spent a lot of time defending him just because it seems if you're on the left you hate for his thoughts on islam and if you're on the right you hate him for his thoughts on christianity. i personally agree with a lot of what he says, and even when i don't i just enjoy seeing his perspective.

kibbeh · 02-19-2017, 08:42 AM

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no. if you listen to him speak he makes a clear distinction between the different religious groups under the umbrella. he never says that all muslims are the enemy or anything along those lines, but i do also think that there are some right-wing no minds who spin his words to help them prech their anti-muslim rhetoric.

he has also clarfied hundreds of times (literally) that he is not discussing every muslim, but he cannot make the distinction every time it comes up. people should be able to understand that he does not mean every single muslim.

no

you listen to him speak

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Most important of all - to me - is the fact that Harris has used his views about Islam to justify a wide range of vile policies aimed primarily if not exclusively at Muslims, from torture ("there are extreme circumstances in which I believe that practices like 'water-boarding' may not only be ethically justifiable, but ethically necessary"); to steadfast support for Israel, which he considers morally superior to its Muslim adversaries ("In their analyses of US and Israeli foreign policy, liberals can be relied on to overlook the most basic moral distinctions. For instance, they ignore the fact that Muslims intentionally murder noncombatants, while we and the Israelis (as a rule) seek to avoid doing so. . . . there is no question that the Israelis now hold the moral high ground in their conflict with Hamas and Hezbollah"); to anti-Muslim profiling ("We should profile Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim, and we should be honest about it"); to state violence ("On questions of national security, I am now as wary of my fellow liberals as I am of the religious demagogues on the Christian right. This may seem like frank acquiescence to the charge that 'liberals are soft on terrorism.' It is, and they are").

he is vile

torture is disgusting, profiling is disgusting, israel, if you look at its history and at the facts INTENTIONALLY targets civilians and is ethnically cleansing an entire population and is the farthest thing from being a moral state. criticizing muslim countries is absolutely fine but doing so just to try and make excuses for israel is disgusting. there is NO excuse for murder.

i dislike him because he has ****ty views and opinions

i mean idc this won't change my opinion of u but i didn't take u for a sam harris cock sucker tbh :/