that too.

Yeah I don't really hear many atheists call themselves spiritual. Most self-proclaimed atheists wouldn't want to be associated with religion in any form.

"Spiritual" often seems to be code for "cherry-picked, watered-down versions of various beliefs from other cultures which are poorly applied and poorly understood and tied together in new-age books marketed toward lonely people".

Although, granted, there isn't really a proper, fitting term for those who are agnostic or undecided but also strongly believe in some otherworldly force (and yes I realize someone is going to volunteer the word "delusional", but aside from that..!) and may or may not have their own cobbled-together belief system that isn't rigid enough to be a religion because it's fluid and changes often.

I used to use that word to describe the feeling i get looking up at the night sky knowing im made of the same things that are out there or to describe the sharing of atoms between things from the past. Now i just call it amazing.

sam harris is a piece of dog **** who needs to shut up

Sam Harris can be kind of a twat (from what I can remember cause I haven't paid attention to him for years), but many of his views on and arguments against religion are rock solid. I just wouldn't make him my spirit animal.

im 40 or so pages into the book and i definitely think you would enjoy. you and i seem to have similar thoughts on religion and spirtuality and i think sam does a great job of adding some insight and presenting some really interesting ideas.

because of his thoughts and work regarding islam?

not really

he can trash islam all he wants, i don't care about that

its basically because he loves to paint all muslims and arabs as being all exactly the same and as all subhuman barbaric animals who are just crazy terrorists who hate peace

he has an agenda

hes a jew who is very pro israel and so its of course to his advantage to make arabs look very bad

same as bill maher

i disagree but respek you so i understand

Noam Chomsky versus Islamophobe Sam Harris: Has the New Atheist Movement Been Hijacked by Bigots?

read this